My current rotaion is WW, BT, HS with 50+ rage and Slam only on bloodsurge procs.
Im full t7.5 with Death's bite and Armageddon. My best on Patchwerk was 4.4k. Im told I dont do enough dps for the gear I have. Is my rotation wrong? Im using Recklessness with Deaths wish and Loaethebs shadow on boss fights as well as haste potions when heroism is used. I experimented using BT before WW when starting my rotaion but I dont think it made that much of a difference.
We would need to see a WWS to fully understand what is going on to give you advice. There are other variables at play here: length of fight, debuffs, buffs, consumables, timing of heroism, timing of your cooldowns, etc. Also, what glyphs are you using? I will say if you have an alt you should dump mining on this character and pick up blacksmithing.
My current rotaion is WW, BT, HS with 50+ rage and Slam only on bloodsurge procs.
Im full t7.5 with Death's bite and Armageddon. My best on Patchwerk was 4.4k. Im told I dont do enough dps for the gear I have. Is my rotation wrong? Im using Recklessness with Deaths wish and Loaethebs shadow on boss fights as well as haste potions when heroism is used. I experimented using BT before WW when starting my rotaion but I dont think it made that much of a difference.
Any advice would be appreciated.
At a glance, you aren't doing anything terrible with your gear except for the hit gem in your gun. As Bird said, we need a WWS. Have a look at the spreadsheet thread and see if there are any other changes you can make using the spreadsheet as a guide.
Don't use haste pots when heroism is up, its a waste of dps and a pot. You should be using them in-conjuction with a non-heroism death wish for the last 15 seconds of this. Besides this 4.4k could be ok or awful depending on melee buffs. If you don't have windfury, mangle, 3% haste, faerie fire 4.4k could be very respectable. However if you have access to full melee buffs then you would have to provide a parse to look at what you are doing, the rotation is right but fury warriors are very dependent on buffs.
You only have 2 prismatic gems in your gear, 1 of which is a 27 crit gem, and a 16 hit rating gem, you should replace the 27 crit prismatic with a 27 strength gem and add another one of those into your belt for the 4 strength bonus, and replace the 16 hit rating gem with an 8str/8 crit gem or 16crit.
Does Enrage proc of bosses' AOE damage? How often is it useful in boss fights at all? I'm currently overcapped with Expertise and looking for some place to move points from Weapon Mastery to. The choice is between Anger Management, Unbridled Wrath, Enrage and Imp. Execute, I think.
Does Enrage proc of bosses' AOE damage? How often is it useful in boss fights at all? I'm currently overcapped with Expertise and looking for some place to move points from Weapon Mastery to. The choice is between Anger Management, Unbridled Wrath, Enrage and Imp. Execute, I think.
I tested myself Enrage on my Fury build. It simply doesn't worth the points. I parsed 2 full Naxxramas runs and the proc rate was very, very low... I'd take Anger Management + Piercing Howl/Heroic Fury or 2 points on Improved Execute.
I swear, I saw a patch note once stating that no enrage effect procs from AoE damage.
And an opinion to your question:
I'd definitely take improved execute over more rage or enrage.
Don't know after the patch though, seeing as how we'll generate less rage.
"Increased aggro" abilities: How do they work?
Do they give a flat amount of aggro each time they are used or are an aggro-multiplier to the damage caused by the attack?
How can I know the exact multiplier or the flat amount caused from each of the main tanking abilities from the prot warrior? (Heroic Strike, Shield Slam, Devastate, Revenge and Thunderclap)
Generally speaking for abilities like that, it's a flat amount of threat + damage done for Warriors. Couple are interesting, such as Devastate (damage + 5% of AP, which is still a flat amount... it just isn't a completely static flat amount), but usually it's a flat amount such as Heroic Strike being 259 according to information in that link.
Does anyone know how to see how much shield block value you have? The only thing I've seen is if you mouse-over the strength stat you get how much SBV your strength is giving you but this doesn't include the SBV from gear, right?
Does anyone know how to see how much shield block value you have? The only thing I've seen is if you mouse-over the strength stat you get how much SBV your strength is giving you but this doesn't include the SBV from gear, right?
Hover over the Block stat in your character screen under Defensive stats.
Can anyone tell me the expected accuracy of Rawr's DPS estimations or Landsouls spreadsheet? IE accurate to within 1/5/10% or roughly X DPS.
I had someone tell me that they had issues with accuracy while I was under the impression that they were quite accurate, erring on the high side if at all, due to assuming a perfect rotation and no loss of time on target due to positioning or other issues.
I too am concerned that I'm not pushing out enough DPS in raids. I try to follow the recommened rotations and I can never seem to keep up with raid members that are less geared than myself. So, I have a few questions.
First question, today I replaced two Jagged Forest Emralds (8 Crit & 12 Stam) for the two Sovereign Twilight Opal (8 Str & 12 Stam) that I'm now wearing. I want to see if this will increase my dps. However, I do lose the socket bonus so i'm not sure how it'll work out. Also, I current am wearing the Incisor Fragment trinket. I have Darkmoon Card - Death that I could wear instead. Which should I go with until I can upgrade? Overall, I'm a bit confused on whether I should go with Strength or Crit. Which will produce higher dps?
Second question is in regards to my build. I typicall run with 2 pallys and a prot warrior who uses commanding Shout. Therefore, I don't see any need to put points in Booming Voice or Commanding Presence. I only have 1 point in Weapon Mastery because I'm already at 5.75% and with the 1 point in WM I reach the expertiese cap. I usally put my two floater points in Improved Bersker Rage but this morning I switched them to Enrage to see how that works out for my dps. Does anyone see anything that I can do to improve my build?
Here are a couple WWS. Please check them out and let me know if I'm where I should be with dps. Also, note that this was prior to me switching the 2 gems and the two points from IBR to Enrage.
Can anyone tell me the expected accuracy of Rawr's DPS estimations or Landsouls spreadsheet? IE accurate to within 1/5/10% or roughly X DPS.
I find the numbers from Landsouls sheet much more accurate than the current RAWR output although both are too high compared to real live values (assuming perfect rotations, no lag spikes, no fps problems etc.). From my experience is the error margin about 10-15%.
Every single week, come Loatheb time, I get my damage killed by our other fury warrior.
His deep wounds does significantly more damage than mine did during the course of the fight, consistently week after week. It's generally around 250k(me) vs 350k(him) from deep wounds.
That said, non-deep-wounds attacks I did more damage and had a higher crit rate than him for the fight across all categories. (my gear is a lil better) Additionally, my HS damage is almost double my white damage on that fight, where his white damage exceeds his HS damage.
Near as I can tell, I'm doing something that's cutting short my deep wounds, due to some vagary of how deep wounds calculates on fights where crit% approaches 100%. I mean, all the abilities that aren't deep wounds are doing more damage, so shouldn't deep wounds be doing more damage unless something is bugged?
For reference, I'm using BoH / Armageddon, and I think he uses BoH / Jawbone. Is the matching 3.4 speeds my problem?
Every single week, come Loatheb time, I get my damage killed by our other fury warrior.
His deep wounds does significantly more damage than mine did during the course of the fight, consistently week after week. It's generally around 250k(me) vs 350k(him) from deep wounds.
That said, non-deep-wounds attacks I did more damage and had a higher crit rate than him for the fight across all categories. (my gear is a lil better) Additionally, my HS damage is almost double my white damage on that fight, where his white damage exceeds his HS damage.
Near as I can tell, I'm doing something that's cutting short my deep wounds, due to some vagary of how deep wounds calculates on fights where crit% approaches 100%. I mean, all the abilities that aren't deep wounds are doing more damage, so shouldn't deep wounds be doing more damage unless something is bugged?
For reference, I'm using BoH / Armageddon, and I think he uses BoH / Jawbone. Is the matching 3.4 speeds my problem?
I'm not aware of any DW bug for using weapons with the same attack speed. Jawbone will cause bigger deep wounds than Armageddon due to it's slower attack speed though, but that shouldn't amount a ~100k difference over the course of the fight though, especially as they are OH DW ticks.
My current rotaion is WW, BT, HS with 50+ rage and Slam only on bloodsurge procs.
Im full t7.5 with Death's bite and Armageddon. My best on Patchwerk was 4.4k. Im told I dont do enough dps for the gear I have. Is my rotation wrong? Im using Recklessness with Deaths wish and Loaethebs shadow on boss fights as well as haste potions when heroism is used. I experimented using BT before WW when starting my rotaion but I dont think it made that much of a difference.
Any advice would be appreciated.
I died on patchwerk this week ( lol ) but on Grand Widow i did 5.2k. The only thing i chnaged was putting 3 pnts into Imp Cleave and then using cleave instead of HS. is this un heard of? or do lots of ppl use cleave over HS
I died on patchwerk this week ( lol ) but on Grand Widow i did 5.2k. The only thing i chnaged was putting 3 pnts into Imp Cleave and then using cleave instead of HS. is this un heard of? or do lots of ppl use cleave over HS
As a main attack? No. Was she being tanked near the adds so you were hitting more than one target with your cleave?
I died on patchwerk this week ( lol ) but on Grand Widow i did 5.2k. The only thing i chnaged was putting 3 pnts into Imp Cleave and then using cleave instead of HS. is this un heard of? or do lots of ppl use cleave over HS
I think wasting 3 talent points to use in a skill that costs significantly more rage and does significantly less damage on a single target is a phenomenal idea.
I'm not aware of any DW bug for using weapons with the same attack speed. Jawbone will cause bigger deep wounds than Armageddon due to it's slower attack speed though, but that shouldn't amount a ~100k difference over the course of the fight though, especially as they are OH DW ticks.
I'll have to get a WWS from the next raid or screenshot my recount. It seriously is just strange. By every metric I had available except deep wounds damage, I was outperforming, but when DW damage is included my numbers were lower by a significant amount.
Loatheb is a gimmick anyhow, but if there is some kind of basic thing I'm doing that's screwing up DW, I want to iron it out before Ulduar.
Is it possible that I need to stop attacking the boss at like 5% to make sure DW ticks to completion because I'm constantly overwriting the buff and the boss is dying with 100k of DW left on it? I never see DW tick at 5 digits, so it seems unlikely.
Either way, I'm surprised other warrs haven't encountered this on Loatheb.
I'll have to get a WWS from the next raid or screenshot my recount. It seriously is just strange. By every metric I had available except deep wounds damage, I was outperforming, but when DW damage is included my numbers were lower by a significant amount.
Loatheb is a gimmick anyhow, but if there is some kind of basic thing I'm doing that's screwing up DW, I want to iron it out before Ulduar.
Is it possible that I need to stop attacking the boss at like 5% to make sure DW ticks to completion because I'm constantly overwriting the buff and the boss is dying with 100k of DW left on it? I never see DW tick at 5 digits, so it seems unlikely.
Either way, I'm surprised other warrs haven't encountered this on Loatheb.
Have you compared the number of DW ticks each of you have been getting? Are they comparable? Or does he have more and ticking for more? It could just be the OH, but I can't see it making that much of a difference a small percintle maybe, but not 40%.
whats the best mod to alert a warrior when sunders are about to fade? (possibly 10 seconds before)
I'm a fury warrior, however we dont have any prot warriors in our guild.
I currently have power auras to alert me when other events happen, but sadly I couldn't figure out how to configure it to tell me when a debuff on target is about to fade.
As a Tank the "protection gear quick reference" thread was helpful knowing which instances, etc. to go to get the best pieces for my set. Especially since dual spec is coming, is anyone working on similar Fury and Arms "quick reference" threads?
03/30/09, 7:00 PM
