I wouldn't go all out for expertise as a dodged attack means a free OP, but being expertise capped will still be nice anyways

edit : soft capped that is

Axira: The dodge you gain from both AGI and Dodge Rating are factored into the same diminishing returns formula. Since you need 73.52 AGI to gain 1% dodge, while you only need 39.34 Dodge Rating to gain 1% Dodge, Dodge Rating is still superior in terms of avoidance gained per item point spent.

Parry and Dodge are on separate diminishing returns formulae, but given that Parry Rating gives less avoidance per point than Dodge Rating even BEFORE diminishing returns, Dodge will still give you better results unless your stats are extremely skewed.

With regards to red-shaded gemmings, I would recommend either Dodge Rating (for the above-mentioned reasons) or STR, whose block value is mitigation, as opposed to Dodge's avoidance.

Has anyone seen a Glyph of Blocking, or Glyph of Last Stand? I have yet to see one, or hear about one on my server (herbs are stupid pricey though). Just making sure it actually exists in game.

The resilience/defense and Blood Craze is actually an interesting topic

So facts:

1) Resilience absorbed crits still proc Blood Craze

2) Defense absorbed crits . do not proc Blood Craze

However most people dont know the important result of those 2.

Mobs do not have 5% crit chance vs you like most people think. Sure in the end it seems so because:

a) Mob chance to crit = 5% base + 0.04xWeapon Skill = 5%+0.04*5*mlevel. For a 80 level mob that means its 5%+0.04*5*80% =21%

b) Your base "crit reduction" from defense = your TOTAL defense *0.04 = your lvl*5*0.04 - assuming you capped your defense. So its 16% reduction without any +defense gear.

21-16=5% - so yea its same as the common knowledge. However it has some implications.

Resilience reduction to crits comes on table BEFORE defense reduction to crits. Therefore when a lvl 80 toon RESILIENCE CAPPED toon is attacked by a lvl 80 mob the "combat table" is populated like this.

Mob base chance to crit = 21%. Resilience crit % reduction = 15%. Combat table gets "injected" with 15% "resilience reduced crits" . Then and only then defense comes to play - assuming no defense gear is used you have 16% further crit reduction - since the mob has only 6% chance to crit left that goes to 0, and rest of table is filled with hits and eventual dodge/miss/parry etc.

In the end it means the mob of your level has FIFTEEN % chance to proc Blood Craze on every hit. even though without resilience its chance to crit is only 5%.


In short
a) If crit immune - chance to proc Blood Frenzy = current resilience gear % crit reduction chance.
b) If not crit immune chance to proc Blood Frenzy = current resilience gear % crit reduction chance+final chance to crit.

So in the end putting resilience gear not only doesnt lower your chance of proccing Blood Craze, but in fact in many cases it INCREASES it drastically.

How big a deal is weapon speed?

Wanted: Ragemane's Flipper offers three tank-specific weapons as rewards. Looks to me like the axe has the best threat gen / farming stats, especially considering the orc racial...but it's really slow. I'm having trouble dumping rage with HS even with my current 1.6s weapon...not that I really need to, since I generally only lose threat when melee does something stupid.

Also: is Devastate normalized?

Weapon speed is a huge deal, the faster you can press Heroic Strike, the more damage you do, the more threat you do. Given two weapons of equal DPS for a Protection Warrior, the faster speed will do more damage in the same period of time due to Heroic Strike. Out of those weapons, the mace is by far the best.

Devastate is normalized.

I believe they do diminish like most other rating and enchants do. I think the best enchants at the moment for DPS anyways is Berserking. I'm not 80 so have not tested proc rate to see if using 2x Berserking is better or worse than Berserking on MH and Massacre on OH.

I think Massacre on OH is pretty much unbeatable, but i'm not quiet sure about the MH enchant.
It really depends on the PPM of Berserking, since it would average out at:

1 PPM and assuming 14k armor (mentioning the downscaling of berserking with the -25% armor debuff while gaining the benefit of AttT and adding imp. Berserker Stance (+10% AP) = ~94 AP

or more like 1,5 PPM = ~140 AP

Massacre is a flat 110 AP (+11 AP imp. Berserker Stance) = 121 AP

so it really depends on the PPM imho

I don't think this is how it works. I was under the impression that your resiliance-proced effects was not actually related to the crit that was pushed off the combat table, but simply a direct function of your resiliance.

In more detail: Resiliance does not actually convert a crit into a pseudo-crit on the combat table. It converts a crit into a non-crit, and separately gives a chance to proc on-crit effects. If you have 16% crit reduction from resiliance, this gives you a 16% chance on incoming non-crit to proc crit-related effects for all effects. This is a flat percent and not affected by the incoming effect. Effects that are hard-coded not to crit (for example, Deathcoil) are capable of procing this. Other effects that had a less-than-16% base crit chance (for example, SL-SL warlock nukes have around 10% in PvP gear) have all of their crit removed, which is only a 10% reduction, and yet still give 16% chance to proc crit-related effects.

This was discovered as a result of having odd effects due to hit and crit not being the only results on the combat table. For example imagine you have 75% avoidance, 15% resiliance, and are hit with an effect with 25% crit chance. If resiliance was a pseudocrit effect, then every actual hit would proc your on-crit effect, since all 25% of the hits would have been crits pre-resiliance. This was found not to be the case, every non-crit still only has a 15% chance to proc. This also provides a means of testing to make sure that what I'm saying is still the case. I haven't heard of this being changed, but it's also not the sort of thing that's easy to notice.

I've been tanking a lot of heroics and 10-mans lately, and a lot of pulls require AOE tanking.
I was never a tank pre-LK so I don't know if I'm doing things right.

In a general pull I would:
Pull -> T-Clap -> Demo/Auto-attack -> SS/Rev/Dev/Dev rotation -- (Shockwave somewhere in there, situation depending)

Because I usually have so much rage, I'd cleave in between each special if there are 2 or more mobs (rage permitting), HS when it's single target. I re-apply T-Clap and Demo Shout whenever they're about to expire, but that's it.

Should I be T-Clapping more often? Or is Cleave a better use of rage?

Assuming 14000 armour unbuffed and discounting any AP modifiers such as Imp. Berserker Stance, you will gain 233.3 AP from AttT. Now assume you have one Berserking proc up your armour will be reduced by 25%, or 3500. This translates to an AP loss from AttT of 58.3, so you have a net gain of 341.7 AP from the proc. In other words, you gain 85.4% of the normal effect..

If you have two procs up at the same time, you will lose 7000 armour and hence 116.7 AP resulting in a net gain of 683.3 AP, which is again 85.4% of the normal effect. However these calculation all assume that the armour reduction affects AP from AttT at all.