How is Shockwaves crit-chance calculated?

My initial test (sample: 150 hits, lvl 80 target) placed it within 0,5% of my spell-crit chance.
However, while doing some testing today in a gear-setup with 0% spell-crit chance, I still got a crit with Shockwave on the boss dummy (and yes, I´m positive noone put any debuffs on it. I was all alone).

Is it affected by cruelty, maybe?

Is execute worth to put into the fury rotation in 3.2?
If it is, where do it belong in the priority system? Right now I just keep on going like normal (WW>BT>Slam, HS when there is enough rage) when the boss is below 20%
I would guess that it will replace HS as rage dump, but I'm not sure.

is arms or fury better for dps for low geared people just starting raiding? say 200ilvl geared, or the gap is unnoticable?

It does not. It's in the Fury thread in multiple places (most recently a couple of weeks ago).

This is something I'd be interested in knowing myself, the warriors in my guild have been discussing this and some answer to the problem would be nice.

I believe this has been addressed in the Fury Thread. While things can change before the patch goes live, the general assumption is that you will not be using it unless you are swimming in rage. Our rotation will remain largely the same with "situational" use of Execute.


While BOTH spec's have a place in a raid, from a pure DPS standpoint I believe you will find Arms yeilds the best at lower gear levels. As you progress the gap starts to close since Fury scales better. Don't take this as "you must be Arms to start Uld".

SO, i dont know if this have been discussed elsewhere, but i did a search and didnt come up with anyting. Im at the point where i have some gear that i could use in lieu of t7 but would lose set bonuses, or i could go all out and get both set bonuses, trading them for stats such as AP, crit, hit, etc. The basic questions are, what value do you guys place on the set bonuses of t7? i looked at my recount for a night of naxx, using bloodsurge as often as i saw it(have a mod that makes a clown horn noise when it procs, so i doubt i missed many) and i came up with 4.4% of my DPS from slams, based on that, i cant see much value in 10% more of 4.4% of my overall versus more AP and more crits on all of my attacks. The 4-set bonus seems a little bit harder to judge, so in your guys opinions, how much value would you place in the 2-set and 4-set bonuses of DPS t7?

Hello warriors. I have a question concerning how to model the dps gain from your weapons, in relation to the addon that I've been developing. I'll make an example first:

Imagine that with a spreadsheet or a simulation like simulationcraft, I came up with these (for my spec, talents etc):

Warlock_T8_03_13_55 Sta=0.00 Int=0.30 Spi=0.94 SP=1.48 Hit=3.25 Crit=1.00 Haste=1.46

Now imagine that I want to model [The Turning Tide]

What I'd do is simply:

36*0 + 50*0.3 + 37*1 + 48*1.46 + 520*1.48 = N

That sum, N, is the actual dps of that item.

For melee though, I can't just multiply the stats for the corresponding scaling value. I need to add the actual weapon dps in the equation, but I'm not sure how...

Imagine [Sinister Revenge] and the following imaginary scaling values:

36*1.2 + 42*0 + 37*2.3 + 24*1.41 + 98*0.94 = N

Now, it lacks the actual weapon dps, that is, according to the tooltip, 171.1.

Is it correct to just do N+171.1 to model that weapon?

Thanks again!!

Most Warrior spreadsheets, calculators, simulators will also provide a scale factor for weapon dps. For example: 1 weapon dps = 4.321 player dps.

That is great and the best thing that I could have asked for. Thanks a lot. I have one last doubt though, as from the warriors simulations around I see only one weapon dps value. Is that scaling value the same for both the main hand and the off hand?

PvP ArP

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I have a Grim Toll and I can't figure out at one point is too much ArP. I'm not a math guy and I'm doing my best to understand this, so if...

1. Battle stance = 123 ArP
2. Mace spec = 185 ArP
3. My passive Armor Penetration from gem's and items = 282

So if that's correct then I'm sitting at 590 Armor Penetration without a Grim Toll proc. Might better senses tell me that I need to cut back a little but I'd like to see some numbers and if that is the case, about how much should I cut and supplement with Strength?