Hello,

I have a question.....a noob question maybe but here it comes: Should I stay arms with my current gear or go fury? As fury I will socket everything with +20 str. of course, but will I do more dps then my current arms spec if I am gonna use Worldcarver(ilvl 232) axe with Sharpened obsidian edged blade(ilvl245) or will my dps compared to my currents arms spec with Hellion Glaive.

Well, I am seeing loads of ppl gemming for str. as fury

I am also seeing some of the top guild warriors from guilds like Stars, Premonition gemming for STR. Maybe it's a gear thing, cause when I gem for straight +STR I lose about 500-1k dps.

You're an arms warrior, so gemming for ArP is a lot better. But most fury warriors are gemming for strength. Atleast in my realm they do.

Listen carefully, stat values are dynamic. the value of each stat changes every time you change a piece of gear or a gem. the best thing to do is use landsoul's spreadsheet to determine the SEP for each stat with your current gear set-up and then gem accordingly.

Basically if you have grim toll or the runestone you should gem arp until you reach the soft cap, if you do not have one of those trinkets then you need a certain amount of passive arp before gemming for it becomes a dps increase. That is why some warriors gem for str while others gem for arp.

In conclusion, just use the spreadsheet.

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Hey guys,

after noticing that many top guilds enchant their boots with stam/movement speed i was wondering if it is really worth losing 12 crit/hit. I guess there has already been a discussion about that anywhere here so i would be thankful if anyone could point me to the according thread.

Also i was wondering, for some hardmode/heroic fights having some mix-gems with stam to increase your survivability doesn't seem to be a bad idea to me, what's your opinion on that?

I dont think that is necessary, because we already have one of the highest HP pool from all classes.

I know several bosses (such as patchwerk) do not gain parry haste any longer.

Does Gormok the Impaler still gain this benefit?
If yes, how much expertise should a tank for this fight have to not incur extra hits?

No. World of Warcraft - English (NA) Forums -> Recent In-Game Fixes - September 2009 - 9/22

I did post it looong ago (probably gone by now was like 2 years i think).

First to answer your question directly - it does reduce chance to crit from mobs. What you probably refer to - is the last change to resilience to reduce overall damage. That does NOT work for pve mobs (or obviously it would be kinda overpowered for tanking).

Resilience in pve has a bit interesting results. It does reduce the chance to be crit. What more it works BEFORE defense.

How is it important? Well first we need to "dispel some myths" about mobs crit chance. People tend to think mobs have 5% chance to crit you at equal level. Well thats not true at all. They have 5% + 0.04%*attack skill. With attack skill being 5*mob level it means a lvl 80 mob has 21% chance to crit a lvl 80 player. Now obviously players have defense skill reducing crit incoming by 0.04%*defense - so for player without extra defense its 16% crit reduction. The same applies to players too - they have 16% more crit chance then indicated - which is then reduced by the other players defense.

So overall defense and attack skill nullify each other and you are left with 5% crit for mobs and indicated crit for players. So why bother with it?

Because resilience works BEFORE defense. So if the lvl 80 mob has 21% crit rate for example, and you have 15% reduced crit chance from resilience (and 16% from defense of course), then the crit will look like this 85% chance to be hit (or missed/dodged etc just non crit) , and 15% chance to be crit with resilience converting to hit. Resilience "converted" crits still proc stuff like blood craze for example (or the other stuff for other classes).

This is mostly useful for mob grinding/leveling - but sometimes for other stuff too. For example a warrior in max stacked resilience can aoe grind mobs, and if hes specced into it, will have basically 100% uptime of blood craze - a non trivial heal at that stage.

I guess its mostly theorycrafting thing - but since its simple questions/answers thread I guess it can be useful to people leveling a warrior, or wishing to grind etc.