Hey all, I am having trouble finding up to date and detailed rotation information for fury. It seems wherever I seek it I get told a diffrent priority list (Use Slam Procs! first so you don't lose any procs. Or use WW first because it has the highest damage) needless to say I am getting more and confused.

I am looking for as much up to date information concerning the fury rotation as possible and greatly apprecaite any replies / link ect ect. Thank you very much =)

Utopia is an effective buff/debuff monitoring tool, though are certainly other similar mods floating around out there.

Ah yes, that's the kind of addon I was after. It looks a bit unpolished though, any other suggestions?

Define "polish". It's an extremely well-functioning addon that delivers relevant information quickly and dynamically. It is quite customizable in terms of what information is displayed, and how. It tracks stacks, takes into account talents (and which sources would provide a more improved buff/debuff), all that fun stuff. It can add a line on your buff tooltips to show the source of the buff/debuff, and if it's improved at all. Duration can be shown, and certain sources can be forced to show as "temporary (totems I know have this option, may be true for shouts as well). Most components can use custom colors/textures, too.

YouTube - Poor Play, Anub'arak, A Tribute to Skill / Mad Skill to see one possible setup in a raiding situation, where it's toggled to only show melee-relevant debuffs on the current target.

Man, I should do an infomercial for this thing.

Haste isn't bad for fury warriors, as it does lead to more rage/white damage, but since haste does nothing for your special attacks, it doesn't provide as much benefit as strength, armor pen, crit, agil or attack power.

Hm. I've been researching this a bit, but I'm still unsure on it. My DPS seems to have dropped in the past couple months, I suppose after last patch, or maybe one before that. Wasn't sure what was causing it, so I've been asking around. I guess part of it was I missed where we don't spam slam! every time it's up anymore, but only during WW/BT cooldown phase. After I started doing that, it's gone back up a bit, but still can't hit what I think I should be doing. I've tried using Landsoul's spreadsheet, which has helped quite a bit. His sheet says I should be doing a bit over 6k, but I usually seem to stay between 4.3-5.3k. Oddly enough, though, using Landsoul's spreadsheet, while using Edge of Ruin/Stormedge, I couldn't get anywhere near what it said I could do, but after dropping back to using Armageddon in my offhand, my DPS went up and I get a lot closer to what it says I should be able to do with that setup. So, I guess what I'm wondering is, does anyone have any advice on improving my performance, whether with tweaking my rotation a bit more, or switching up some gemming? One thing I'm pretty sure on myself already is that I'm in terrible need of weapons upgrades.



EDIT: I fail to see how this post was 'begging for handholding' but whatever.

Kaedalmael: I can think of three reasons:
1) Edge of Ruin & Stormedge are both 3.5 speed, so on very mobile fights you are likely getting them synced up, which results in rage income being very bursty instead of even. Usually this seems to result in rage starving yourself if you are trying to anticipate incoming rage, or else you are wasting a lot of rage because you go from 0 to 100 to 0 every weapon hit.
2) You were used to the extra rage generation of the haste on Armageddon. I always considered haste as not very desired, but when I lost the 2-piece T8 bonus, I noticed my rage generation become a lot more spiky, but when I put on a little bit of haste it got better again. I know it is not the best stat, but personally it seems to smooth out rage generation, especially on mobile fights (and I have 2 identical speed weapons).
3) What enchant do you have on Stormedge? You have 85 AP on Edge of Ruin, and 25 crit/hit on Armageddon. Enchants can make a noticeable impact on dps, and with the price of Abyss Crystals you should really put Berserking on both of the weapons you intend to use.

Dual Berserking is best. Originally when the armor decrease was much larger on Berserking, Massacre was considered better for the offhand, but no more.

I've been playing a fury Warrior for a few weeks now and am curious if there is more I can do to increase my DPS? My gear is alright thus far, my hit rating/expertise are a bit high but that's because of the gear I've obtained and not being picky lol.

My rotation consists of BT/WW when they're up, hitting Slam when procs and keeping HS going. I have found I run out of rage pretty quickly at some points. Last night I was able to do 5.5k on Anub 25 but still pretty much bottom for dps, I want to try to get that extra umph to go over 6k at least.

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I really just think it's my gear make up that's limiting it BUT I'm not really sure still being new to the class.

Thanks for the input!

5.5k on Anub is terrible considering constant Cleave's + Whirlwind's hitting multiply adds.

Do you have a counter-proposal for what a smart tank would do as far as taking lower level item gear and putting something else besides stam on it?

For the warriors who are stacking expertise gear, there's two reasons.
1. That's what's available in the ilvl 245 gear.
2. As far as inefficiency, stacking hit pretty much just helps threat generation, where as the latest research shows stacking expertise actually helps threat AND survivability. See this thread for details. Warrior Avoidance value of Expertise - TankSpot

As far as "when did putting stamina on best gear make you a smart tank?" My response would be that it doesn't necessarily make you smart. But not using the highest ilevel gear and not using stamina enhancements would generally be less smart. I'd recommend using the tanking spreadsheet to get an exact answer. Except in very specific cases (gemming to stay at def cap, +armor, activating meta) stamina will do more towards keeping you alive longer than an equivalent amount of another stat.