WoW Meter Online - Slints - Threat

One of our tanks happens to be a Prot warrior, above is a parse from our first NR Beasts 25M Heroic kill. He is our best geared tank but he appears to be out threated and our survived by our other tanks, 2 paladins (one considerably less geared) and an offspec druid who used to sub in sometimes. Originally he didn't have the Glyph of Blocking and when he got it (he "couldn't find it"), his survivability seemed to improve. But, considering his gear, and from what I've heard about Prot warriors, he should be doing considerably better.

Could I also get a priority rotation for Prot warriors? I read somewhere that revenge is supposed to be in the mix and that devastate was last as far as priority goes... I think it went something like this: Shield Slam > Revenge > Concussion Blow > Shockwave > Devastate. Devastate is top until you get 5 sunders, HS/Cleave when it's up, and I guess I TC can be thrown at the start.

I've noticed he doesn't use revenge and when I'm healing or just glancing at grid, he takes some huge hits in comparison to the other tanks and like the parse shows, seems to have threat issues. About the same time he got the Glyph of Blocking, we had him respec to his current spec (Deep Wounds). I wanted him to get Imp Charge instead of 2/3 Iron Will, but I guess it doesn't matter and this prot warrior alt said that it would be pretty pointless so I dropped it.

Can I get some feedback on the parse, his gear/spec/glyphs, etc. I'd love for him to improve to make clearing future encounters that much easier. We have Jaraxxus tonight.

Edit: I just looked up his prot spec and apparently he removed his 3/3 AtT... that's bad right? His favorite devastate and pretty much all his threat comes from ap based abilities... unless I'm mistaken

Yes, AtT is a critical talent to have, especially if he is having threat issues. One thing that helped me in heroic strike spamming was to bind it to my mousewheel. It's much easier to go through my normal rotation while spamming my mousewheel than it was to have HS bound to another key. Also make sure he's applying vigilance to a high threat dps and not being lazy. When he's not actively tanking he can also intervene to any high threat dps, it seems that a lot of warriors tend to forget about the threat reduction in intervene.

With the advent of paid Race transfers, what's the best DPS Horde warrior race? I'm not interested in tanking or PVP that much, just in pushing the min/max envelope in raid situations.

Orc Blood Fury > Troll Haste?

I would say Orc, because you have Expertise on Axes in addition to Blood Fury

During discussion of Heroic Anub'arak, I have seen a number of references to using a "block tank" on the adds. I'm looking to get some more information for a warrior in my guild, so is there any specific post I should direct him to that explains the concept in a bit more detail (gear list, etc)?

This post from tankspot probably has what you are looking for as far as gear: tankspot.

The basic idea is to get your avoidance up high enough that every attack is either dodged, parried, or blocked (101.6% or something like that). Then get your block value up to ~3k. Because the adds attack quickly, but don't hit very hard, this is an effective strategy (especially if you have all of the adds on 1 tank).

Tankspot also has a strategy thread that goes into more depth: tankspot.

^^It's a small but important correction, but you probably meant block value.

Arms and Fury are both viable in current raiding content.
Both have their fights in which they shine.
In general fury should perform slightly better, afaik.


There is no way to build a simple Priority list for warriors, because those prioritys can switch with each piece of gear.
Best ways to determine gear upgrades are the Spreadsheet or Rawr (Both produce similar numbers)
But if you want to have a prio list (at least for arms):
Hit (till cap) > ArP (till softcap) > Str > Crit > Agility > Haste And expertise somewhere between strength and the rest depending on your current expertise.

So I am a warrior who recently went fury after being a tank for nearly 3 years. I have done research on these forums and tankspot, and have come up with different results for the Fury Rotation. Some users here advocate WW > BT, while others BT > WW. After consulting the spreadsheet, it seems that BT > WW is the correct rotation? Can anyone clarify please?

At early gearlevels it is WW > BT but with good gear it is BT > WW

Getting expertise-cap for offhand is not worth the loss of other stats.