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Old 08/19/09, 11:10 AM   #1486
ZorbaTHut
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Mal'Ganis
Originally Posted by Speeder View Post
... which isnt supported by speadsheet
I'm pretty sure Landsoul could fix this if he really wanted to. It's not like OpenOffice has a bug that makes it impossible to calculate Warrior DPS.

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Old 08/19/09, 12:08 PM   #1487
Speeder
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Burning Legion (EU)
Originally Posted by ZorbaTHut View Post
I'm pretty sure Landsoul could fix this if he really wanted to. It's not like OpenOffice has a bug that makes it impossible to calculate Warrior DPS.
I guess OO doesnt suport VB script and macros arent compatible between those 2 products. Another thing considering popularity of Exel target audience for OO version is small and not worth effort.

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Old 08/19/09, 12:33 PM   #1488
Zxahn
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Xavius (EU)
Originally Posted by Narcissus View Post
You're comparing his BiS against your total build. The difference is - BiS is simply that. Best dps /stat usage for that slot. There are obviously other factors like hit and situation where an entire combination will be better than this "set" because it's not really a set at all.
Actually, if you add up the numbers for the posted sets they both hit the exp/hit caps and when fully ArP socketed both hit the ArP cap, and that is without baing a JC/BS.

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Old 08/19/09, 12:57 PM   #1489
ZorbaTHut
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Originally Posted by Speeder View Post
I guess OO doesnt suport VB script and macros arent compatible between those 2 products. Another thing considering popularity of Exel target audience for OO version is small and not worth effort.
But, as I said, he could fix this - OO has a scripting language, and he could do the scripting in OO.

Also, if he's mentioning torrents as being one of his major customer bases . . . well, OO is very very easy and free to get ahold of. The only cost to installing OO is a little bandwidth and disk space, so anyone who wanted to use an OO version of the spreadsheet could do so easily.

I don't know if he wants to, but it's pretty clearly possible.

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Old 08/19/09, 1:25 PM   #1490
Recab
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It is also a lot of work. No offense but I don't think that you all are remembering that he does this for the Warrior community for free. Quit posting saying "omg landsoul hurry up and update" and "wahhhh i want OO support".

Here's an idea: If you want OO support or a quicker update to happen, why don't you offer some form of incentive (hint: there's a donation paypal address on the front page) instead of just annoying landsoul and everyone else who visits this thread?

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Old 08/19/09, 1:29 PM   #1491
Statix
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Originally Posted by ZorbaTHut View Post
But, as I said, he could fix this - OO has a scripting language, and he could do the scripting in OO.
So could any of us, including yourself.
He used to provide sheets for OO and it became such a chore to cater to a small number of people that he stopped... do you really want the sheets to take even longer to come out?

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Old 08/19/09, 2:08 PM   #1492
galindon
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Alleria
I don't know if its been posted, but I have personally updated the sheet using alliance gear. This is just to get you by until Landsoul is done.

What I did.
1) T9 bonuses and checks are included.
2) Trinkets are included (even though I don't like the effective proc for the 10 man DPS trinket)
3) New gear for alliance side is included (heroic and regular, emblems). Not all Mail and leather items are included. Mainly the crit/Exp/ArP ones. I Bascially ignored all the hit/haste combos.
4) 180 to 108 AP for the talent.
5) Fixed all the macros to adjust to the added lines in the front page. (SEP button works)
6) Added gem columns for the 2 gear pieces that have new gem possibilities (Bracers and rings). These also work just like everything else, checks for
bonuses etc.
(*BUG* While the new bracer gem slots are included, I forgot to fix the "check both gem slots" to figure out if the bonus should apply. This affects only Bracers of Dark Determination. The rings however work with the 2nd gem slot. *FIXED*)

What I didn't do
1) Update the gems for JC.

Enjoy. Thank you Landsoul for all the hard work you put into this thing.

Excel'97 version
WarriorDPS2.407GAL.Excel97.xls

(why not the newer version? Well, because I don't have that version available for me to edit)

Last edited by galindon : 08/19/09 at 5:15 PM.

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Old 08/19/09, 2:11 PM   #1493
galindon
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Oh, and the gear list is long because I just included the heroic versions with an (H) in the name to indicate the higher version. Lots of stuff is doubled up this way. Just easier this way.

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Old 08/19/09, 3:46 PM   #1494
halton
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Originally Posted by galindon View Post
Oh, and the gear list is long because I just included the heroic versions with an (H) in the name to indicate the higher version. Lots of stuff is doubled up this way. Just easier this way.
Good stuff, Galindon. You might want to edit your prior post to note that this is the 97 (although that should be clear from the filename, I missed it) version. Those using 2007 will need to continue to wait or continue to update their own spreadsheets.

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Old 08/19/09, 3:51 PM   #1495
nomopofomo
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Pardon me for being skeptical but why is your version 19 megabytes?

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Old 08/19/09, 3:58 PM   #1496
arc
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Landsoul's 2k3/97 version is also that size. I'd assume it has to do with image compression? I've also been curious why the original is so large.

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Old 08/19/09, 3:59 PM   #1497
bo5r5osh
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Twilight's Hammer (EU)
As for how to differentiate between two items which share same name, different ids, one from herioc and the other from normal, here is the part of the XML file from the armory which you can use:

<itemSource areaId="4722" areaName="Trial of the Crusader (25)" creatureId="35216" creatureName="Lord Jaraxxus" difficulty="h" dropRate="3" value="sourceType.creatureDrop"/>
<itemSource areaId="4722" areaName="Trial of the Crusader (25)" creatureId="35216" creatureName="Lord Jaraxxus" difficulty="n" dropRate="3" value="sourceType.creatureDrop"/>

You can use the getAttributes method (or excel equivalent one) to fetch [difficulty], and compare it to "n" or "h".

link: http://www.wowarmory.com/item-tooltip.xml?i=ITEM_ID

Hope this helps.

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Old 08/19/09, 4:15 PM   #1498
galindon
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Because excel sucks. I don't know why its that big to be honest. I did add a lot of gear. No virus, no key logger (unless my work computer is infected, which if it is I get to yell at some IT people and change my own stuff.)

Night Eternal : Home is my guild. Check the left for my toon. It's safe to the best of my own knowledge.

If you guys spot any gear bugs, or what have you point it out. Other than the fancy addons and improvements that Landsoul is teasing us with as well as the arms improvements and JC gems it should be ready to go. I can also spend some time adding the JC gems. Once you figure out how Landsoul programmed it, its actually quite easy but very tedious because of all the possible ways to get #N/A errors which suck.

Last edited by galindon : 08/19/09 at 4:20 PM.

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Old 08/19/09, 4:38 PM   #1499
Grayson Carlyle
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Originally Posted by galindon View Post
I don't know if its been posted, but I have personally updated the sheet using alliance gear. This is just to get you by until Landsoul is done.

4) 180 to 108 AP for the talent.
Did you make sure to update the SEP column on the gear lists to use 108 instead of 180? Most people seem to be missing this one.

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Old 08/19/09, 4:41 PM   #1500
galindon
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Originally Posted by Grayson Carlyle View Post
Did you make sure to update the SEP column on the gear lists to use 108 instead of 180? Most people seem to be missing this one.
Yap. Did that too.

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