Elitist Jerks
Register
Blogs
Forums


Go Back   Elitist Jerks » Class Mechanics » Warriors

Closed Thread
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 09/02/09, 2:33 AM   #1531
Moozhe
Von Kaiser
 
Undead Monk
 
Area 52
Bug?

I'm confused by the spreadsheet and I'm wondering if I've encountered a bug.

Currently I am not quite hit capped and the SEP on Hit Rating is higher than ArP. When I switch between ArP food and Hit Rating food, it correctly shows my DPS is higher using Hit Rating food. If I switch the gem in my T8.5 gloves from ArP to Hit Rating, my DPS goes down.

I especially don't get it because the socket bonus on the gloves is +4 Hit Rating.

So if 40 Hit Rating > 40 ArP Rating (according to the spreadsheet), why is 20 ArP Rating > 24 Hit Rating (also according to the spreadsheet).

The other bugs I found were that I can't manually change my talents, the macro to fetch talents from the armory does not work, and my Nitro Boosts (+24 Crit Rating) enchant is not recognized.

EDIT: I think I figured out why. Even though switching the gem gives me 24 Hit Rating, I am less than that from the cap. So when it says the SEP is higher, it means for how ever many points until I reach the cap.

Offline
Old 09/02/09, 3:29 AM   #1532
Lifthrasil
Glass Joe
 
Tauren Warrior
 
Baelgun (EU)
Finaly! Thanks!

But Aesir's Edge seems to be missing in fury offhand...

Offline
Old 09/02/09, 3:43 AM   #1533
Bigboss_hr
Glass Joe
 
Orc Warrior
 
Kor'gall (EU)
I have some problems with new sheet.
If I change race from night elf (Landsoul) to orc many things gets red ("doll" column-J22; "DPS breakdown"; & all tables below "Orientation & buffs")
Dps calculation says "change lookup"
Also on lookup tab the "DPSdiff" coulmn says "#DIV/0!
Do we need to import charr from armory to make it work?
It wasn't the case with previous sheets...
I'm kinda lost here

Offline
Old 09/02/09, 3:47 AM   #1534
Lifthrasil
Glass Joe
 
Tauren Warrior
 
Baelgun (EU)
Originally Posted by landsoul View Post

Changes this version:
[...]

-Added a reddish text color scheme for horde, and blueish text color scheme for alliance, changes when you update your race.

[...]
It's not a bug, it's a feature

Offline
Old 09/02/09, 4:14 AM   #1535
Bigboss_hr
Glass Joe
 
Orc Warrior
 
Kor'gall (EU)
Originally Posted by Lifthrasil View Post
It's not a bug, it's a feature
Ok..but calculations doesn't work...macros are turned on btw.
And what is "change lookup"?? I also tried switching fury to arms & back on lookup tab but with no results

Offline
Old 09/02/09, 4:31 AM   #1536
Speeder
Piston Honda
 
Speeder's Avatar
 
Orc Warrior
 
Burning Legion (EU)
I can confirm that calculations dont work for me either. macros are running, iterative calculations are turned on.

Changing single item keeps giving me calculations error.

patched my office with SP1 and SP2 - SEP doesnt work stil.

Last edited by Speeder : 09/02/09 at 5:26 AM.

peace MK

Offline
Old 09/02/09, 4:35 AM   #1537
Graul
King Hippo
 
Graul's Avatar
 
Orc Warrior
 
Fenris
Nevermind, reinstalling office differently fixed the issue. Everything seems to work fine so far except the "DPS difference" for off hand weapons, the column is filled with NA after an armory import. The trace reports a circular reference error.

Last edited by Graul : 09/02/09 at 5:38 AM.

Offline
Old 09/02/09, 5:15 AM   #1538
rejdakon
Von Kaiser
 
Human Warrior
 
Der Rat von Dalaran (EU)
I get #WERT! (german office 2007, this should be #vlaue in english) in most of the calculated cells. Sheet loads just fine, armory import is working. Errors occur only after using the SEP macro. I tried following the error-paths but with hundreds of cells showing this error and references (including circle references) across the sheet I finally quit trying.

If there is any way I can find out specifics without following every single reference, please let me know.

Offline
Old 09/02/09, 7:01 AM   #1539
bo5r5osh
Glass Joe
 
Tauren Warrior
 
Twilight's Hammer (EU)
Page: MS Visual Basic, Module 11
Type: Typo
Typo path: "//talentGroups/talentGroup[@active=""1""]/talentSpec"
Correct path: "//talents/talentGroup[@active=""1""]/talentSpec"

Offline
Old 09/02/09, 7:01 AM   #1540
myno
Glass Joe
 
Human Warrior
 
Nera'thor (EU)
Originally Posted by Liar View Post
I have a problem getting the sheet to work and I am not sure if it just a problem on my end. When I open the sheet, it tells me it found unreadable content in the sheet and if I would like to restore it, to which I press Yes. I realize I my network card is somewhat wonky so I sometimes get corrupted files when downloading (large) files so just making sure it's not that. Am I the only one who gets that? (I downloaded the sheet 5 times now and it always give me the same message)

If not:
The sheet breaks down after I let it run SEP calculations without changing anything in the sheet at all. It gives the error message you'd get when you would not have iterative calculations set as instructed in the first page of the sheet (which I have done).
You're not alone. Same problem here. Rest of the sheet really looks great, thanks for your hard work Landsoul!

And to all people having problems with setting talent points: Click in the cell of the talent and write the number of rank in there. It's faster then moving all the picture away

Offline
Old 09/02/09, 8:47 AM   #1541
Flukeworld
Glass Joe
 
Human Warrior
 
Neptulon (EU)
Seems as common problem people have:
I open the the file, enable macros, I set options->formulas->Maximum iterations:100, Maximum Change:0.000001

I do not change anything, i keep the Landsoul char data, i click "Click to" for SEP calculations => some values, as trinkets, wep enchants and so on get errors (#VALUE!). If i click ti again, all values get errors.

Offline
Old 09/02/09, 8:55 AM   #1542
Speeder
Piston Honda
 
Speeder's Avatar
 
Orc Warrior
 
Burning Legion (EU)
Originally Posted by Flukeworld View Post
Seems as common problem people have:
I open the the file, enable macros, I set options->formulas->Maximum iterations:100, Maximum Change:0.000001

I do not change anything, i keep the Landsoul char data, i click "Click to" for SEP calculations => some values, as trinkets, wep enchants and so on get errors (#VALUE!). If i click ti again, all values get errors.
Exactly this is what I am experiencing as well. Hope it will help Landsoul to find and kill bug.

peace MK

Offline
Old 09/02/09, 9:01 AM   #1543
Dragonspear
Von Kaiser
 
Dragonspear's Avatar
 
Human Paladin
 
Gorgonnash
Under professions I noticed that you did not have engineering listed at all. Not a big worry since you have most of the engineering items in there. One thing you do not have however is the Nitro Boosts enchant which provide 24 Crit rating.

Also like a previous poster mentioned, it won't load my Off-hand Aesir's Edge.

Offline
Old 09/02/09, 9:02 AM   #1544
StaxRexx
Glass Joe
 
StaxRexx's Avatar
 
Night Elf Warrior
 
Rexxar
Problems I've noticed... the gloves bonus isnt showing up on the Fury page. The comparisons for many items seem to be off a tad, some more than others. Trinkets... yah no ideas there... however slot changes that would break tier bonuses seem to be including the previous tier bonus that they would actually break(I could be wrong but that's what it looks like to me). The new etched kirin torn rings are missing.

As always I love the sheet it's still the best and it just keeps getting better.




To: Jarheaded

ArP has been discussed at length around here. Arp has a sort of soft bottom and then is greater than Str until it hits 100%. Using the sheet I swapped out all your +20 str gems and couldnt get even close to 100% so your best option to hit 100% would be to use one of the ArP trinkets Mjolnir Runestone or Grim Toll and then swap out a couple gems. Looking at your gear I'm guessing you could farm up these items in a short period of time or with any luck you have one of them sitting in your bank itching to be used. Replacing Banner of Victory will give the greatest gains.

I was Fury Before the Lich King Came... I was Fury before Titan's Grip... I was Fury Before it was cool...

Offline
Old 09/02/09, 9:26 AM   #1545
Jarheaded
Glass Joe
 
Orc Warrior
 
Thaurissan
Originally Posted by StaxRexx View Post
To: Jarheaded

ArP has been discussed at length around here. Arp has a sort of soft bottom and then is greater than Str until it hits 100%. Using the sheet I swapped out all your +20 str gems and couldnt get even close to 100% so your best option to hit 100% would be to use one of the ArP trinkets Mjolnir Runestone or Grim Toll and then swap out a couple gems. Looking at your gear I'm guessing you could farm up these items in a short period of time or with any luck you have one of them sitting in your bank itching to be used. Replacing Banner of Victory will give the greatest gains.
Appreciate the help Rexx, unfortunately the Loot Gods of Ulduar 10 and Naxx 25 do not want me to get a ArP trinket so I QQ everyday.

So ideally, I get a Mjolnir, sub out BoV and gem 4 +20 ArP gems?

Offline
Closed Thread

Go Back   Elitist Jerks » Class Mechanics » Warriors

Thread Tools

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Mongoose calculation or simulation? sag_ich_nicht Public Discussion 1 08/05/08 9:59 AM
[Rogue] Backstab damage calculation Karmon Class Mechanics 5 11/04/07 5:22 PM
Range Calculation Nite_Moogle Theorycrafting Think Tank 0 09/21/07 12:02 PM
Ilvl calculation Drauk Public Discussion 9 03/24/06 4:30 PM