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Old 01/08/10, 6:41 PM   #2401
Alexxcri
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Tauren Warrior
 
Jaedenar (EU)
There's 2 small Issues I'm having with the spreadsheet too. The first one is that Glyph of Heroic Strike doesn't give any dps increase at all for Arms. Of course maybe it's just a bad glyph but I'm using an Incite spec and the spreadsheet actually predicts a Heroic Strike usage of 6,41% of total which is actually more than the 6.01% Execute usage it predicts. To explain more clearly, with current gear the spreadsheet predicts 8035 dps with Glyph of Execute and with Glyph of Heroic Strike it predicts 7988. Ok glyph is bad I tought, 10 rage every crit still isn't good enough, but the problem then was, that when I selected no glyph in that particular slot (i.e. remaning only with glyph of MS and glyph of Rend) it still showed 7988, meaning that the spread sheet doesn't even care for glyph of Heroic strike as Arms. I might be wrong maybe the glyph just is 0 dps but well in a raid environment where heroic strike gets to around 70% crit I'm not sure this is all true.

The second issue is about the 4t10 bonus. Again I am not sure of this. The thing is, currently with 2t10 (shoulders and hands) and 2t9 (pants and chest)+ Helmet of Wrath the spreadsheet says, as I said above x dps. Problem is, when I upgrade helmet of wrath and t9 chest to t10 the predicted dps drops by almost 150. The only difference in these 2 setups are that in the 1st I have the 2t9 bonus, the second setup i have upgraded versions of the same gear just that instead of 2t9 i get the 4t10 bonus. So basically, 6% ArP is 150 more dps than 8Str, 8ArP, 24 crit AND the 4t10 proc. I just find this hard to believe since the 4t10 proc seems really good, at least for Arms. It can also be something I missed, I don't know, but I'm pretty sure the 4t10 bonus is underevaluated (I'm sorry if this issue has already been reported)

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Old 01/08/10, 7:59 PM   #2402
Grayson Carlyle
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Turalyon
Originally Posted by Ran Newman View Post
Seeing that the tick came very shortly after the crit, can this have a connection with latency?
As in, you crit -> about 200 ms, DW tick - > server recognize that crit landed?
It could be latency, but not in the way you describe. Everything in the combat log comes from the server, none of it is client-generated. However, they're sent in groups, so if you have millisecond timestamps on you'll notice that 3-10 events all have the exact same timestamp, then some milliseconds later the next bunch all have the exact same one. It could be that the 2 events were separated into different packets even though server-side the occured "simultaneously".

The main issue however, is that Deep Wounds ticks more often than refresh delay calculations would suggest.

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Old 01/09/10, 1:22 AM   #2403
landsoul
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Worgen Warrior
 
Alterac Mountains
Originally Posted by Alexxcri View Post
blah blah huge paragraph of why imp HS glyph and 4t10 aren't giving any DPS
They aren't yet coded into the sheet.

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Old 01/09/10, 1:24 AM   #2404
landsoul
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Alterac Mountains
Originally Posted by Gravebait View Post
Sorry, here's the calculate button I'm talking about. I'm not sure why it's there considering I have Automatic selected under Workbook Calculation in Excel 2007's options. In any case, when I hit this button or save the sheet the DPS metric fluctuates between about 6 values.
You shouldn't have to use that when you have iterative calculations turned on. That's probably your source of error.

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Old 01/09/10, 8:22 AM   #2405
Rossi
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Human Warrior
 
Spinebreaker
TYPO, LOOKUP

Ashen Band of Endless Vengeance

gemming bonus is 4 agility, not 4 crit

minor but just helpin out

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Old 01/10/10, 3:17 PM   #2406
Catmax
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Non-US/EU Server (EU)
Page: LOOKUP
Type: TYPO

Malevolent Girdle has got a blue and a red socket; not blue and yellow.

Scalpel-Sharpening Shoulderguards has got a red an blue socket, not red only.

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Old 01/10/10, 5:17 PM   #2407
Mortensen
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Human Warrior
 
Kazzak (EU)
Hello guys,

I got a error when running the Spreadsheet :

"Excel found unreadable content in 'WarriorDPS2.601Excel07.xlsm'. Do you want to recover the contents of this workbook? If you trust the source of this workbook, click Yes."


So I click Yes and the Spreadsheet launches but I get another error :

"Excel was able to open the file by repairing or removing the unreadable content (removed part : /xl/vbaProject.bin)".


Then, when I write my character name and server and click on "Fetch Armory", nothing happens.


I'm not common with Excel so I'd like a bit of light here...


Thanks for your help.

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Old 01/10/10, 11:08 PM   #2408
Pirie
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Orc Warrior
 
Kil'Jaeden
Page: ARMS AND FURY
Type: CALCULATION

It appears that the "from cap" numbers are 1 off. For instance, if i am 1 away from the hit cap (262/7.99%) it tells me that i'm 0 away from the cap. For a long time I assumed this was because the 1 more hit would bring me over the cap, making it not worth it. However, when i'm at 25 exp it says I am 0 away from the cap, and upon adding 1 exp rating, it bumps me to 26 exp.

EDIT: This could also be an error in the doll section of the sheet, when I add the 1 exp rating it goes from 25/6.50% to 26/6.53%

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Old 01/11/10, 1:21 AM   #2409
junkpriest
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Gnome Warrior
 
Shattered Hand
Page: FURY/ARMS
Type: REFERENCE

+20 haste gems don't work.

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Old 01/11/10, 4:58 AM   #2410
ilidan
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Night Elf Warrior
 
Draka
Originally Posted by Mortensen View Post
Hello guys,

I got a error when running the Spreadsheet :

"Excel found unreadable content in 'WarriorDPS2.601Excel07.xlsm'. Do you want to recover the contents of this workbook? If you trust the source of this workbook, click Yes."


So I click Yes and the Spreadsheet launches but I get another error :

"Excel was able to open the file by repairing or removing the unreadable content (removed part : /xl/vbaProject.bin)".


Then, when I write my character name and server and click on "Fetch Armory", nothing happens.


I'm not common with Excel so I'd like a bit of light here...


Thanks for your help.
I get the same error messages, however I also recieve a message stating that the file is locked for edititing when i click fetch armory...does anyone have any suggestions on this?

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Old 01/11/10, 12:20 PM   #2411
samot
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Nethersturm (EU)
well, it can't happen anything, if Excel removes the macros (removed part : /xl/vbaProject.bin).

Maybe you should download the file again

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Old 01/11/10, 12:29 PM   #2412
Serivola
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Goblin Warrior
 
Nathrezim (EU)
Do you use Excel 2003 without any service pack? I got this error message too, just installed the latest service pack and everything was fine then...

Page: LOOKUP
Type: TYPO
[Soulthief's Braided Belt] gives 46 hit rating instead of 48

Page: LOOKUP
Type: TYPO
[Gangrenous Leggings] have 3 sockets with 8 agility bonus, gives 200 AP and 84 hit rating

Page: LOOKUP
Type: TYPO
[Legplates of the Violet Champion] give 115 strength instead of only 98 ^.^

Last edited by Serivola : 01/11/10 at 3:13 PM.

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Old 01/11/10, 12:53 PM   #2413
samot
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Goblin Warrior
 
Nethersturm (EU)
I just create a new version of my ImportItems.xlsm to compare the version 2.6.1 Lookup page with wowheads.com.

As before you'll see all found variations / typos marked at the compare page.

Further I added a right-click function for the Item name (currently it will show you the German item-tooltip from buffed.de, but I'm searching for a way to get this infos from the armory or wowheads dircet).

If you would add the item ID to your lookup, I'll be able to implement this function to your sheet too (could it do with the name only too, but it will be much slower and will cause problems with heroic / non heroic items)

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Old 01/11/10, 2:02 PM   #2414
meatmick
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Draenei Warrior
 
Eonar
I don't know if it has been noted but, Rotface's Rupturing Ring proper socket bonus is +4 arp and not +4 str has shown in the spreadsheet.

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Old 01/11/10, 2:36 PM   #2415
Aracross
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Human Warrior
 
Exodar (EU)
Originally Posted by Mortensen View Post
Hello guys,
I got a error when running the Spreadsheet :
"Excel found unreadable content in 'WarriorDPS2.601Excel07.xlsm'. Do you want to recover the contents of this workbook? If you trust the source of this workbook, click Yes."
So I click Yes and the Spreadsheet launches but I get another error :
"Excel was able to open the file by repairing or removing the unreadable content (removed part : /xl/vbaProject.bin)".
Are you using Windows 7? It seems to have a hard time working with script heavy spreadsheets, and there is no solid solution as far as I know.

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