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Old 10/15/10, 9:40 AM   #2911
Facemasher
Glass Joe
 
Gnome Warrior
 
Executus
One other thing to consider with TAiaJ (for Arms) is that the mastery strikes may add charges to, and proc off the extra attack from the trinket. If you stacked mastery you could see this thing get to 8 stacks VERY fast and then the extra attack it procs could proc a mastery strike as well.

Could be very interesting.

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Old 10/15/10, 3:45 PM   #2912
cutterx2202
Glass Joe
 
Human Warrior
 
Gilneas
Originally Posted by Facemasher View Post
One other thing to consider with TAiaJ (for Arms) is that the mastery strikes may add charges to, and proc off the extra attack from the trinket. If you stacked mastery you could see this thing get to 8 stacks VERY fast and then the extra attack it procs could proc a mastery strike as well.

Could be very interesting.
I can confirm tiny abom does gain stacks from strikes of opportunity. (double stack on a melee hit) Now I need to figure out if strikes of opportunity can proc from manifest anger. That's going to be hard to determine from just numbers - assuming around 30% opportunity strikes, 30% of the manifest anger procs would proc an opportunity strike. Manifest anger is already low relative to the amount of opportunity strikes total, so the opportunity strikes acheived from manifest anger might be within a margin of error for low sample sizes.

I think I'll focus on looking for double opportunity strikes per melee swing when manifest anger procs while recording numbers.

Last edited by cutterx2202 : 10/15/10 at 4:15 PM.

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Old 10/18/10, 2:48 AM   #2913
urakdarkhorn
Glass Joe
 
Tauren Warrior
 
Blackrock
Originally Posted by Gulpi View Post
Are there 1h Weaps with STR right now? Afaik all 1h Weaps have agi and AP, and AP is gone with 4.x

There is a large selection of arena weapons that have AP without having any agility on them. All T1 (ilvl 264) arena weapons are now available for purchase with honor and do not require any rating. They still show that a rating is required and they seem to not be avail to purchase but anyone can buy them given they have the sufficient amount of honor. If you are concerned that it is an exploit and fear repurcussions then the Blue Posts here should put your mind at ease.

While the weapons don't have strength on them and you can't reforge the resilience into anything they are easy to procure, you can choose weapon types that benefit from racials (if any) and there are no rng drop rates to contend with.

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Old 10/25/10, 3:30 PM   #2914
Krashnack
Glass Joe
 
Orc Warrior
 
Twisting Nether (EU)
I have prepared a simple Reforging Tool for patch 4.0.1. This excel sheet provides all the reforging mechanics in game. (Well even more :P) You will be able to see the exact character info page in game.

This is not a DPS Spreadsheet. It only provides reforging without spending money and save your configuration. Currently I am trying to write a solver add-in for reforging.

Known Issues are:
Items only ilvl 264+ are available in the list. You need to manually add other items.
You can Reforge to a stat that is already on the item.
Meta gem bonus works all the time.
Item gem bonuses are working manually

Excel 2010: http://rapidshare.com/files/42711489...m_Reforge.xlsx
Excel 97-2003: http://rapidshare.com/files/42711523...em_Reforge.xls

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Old 10/26/10, 12:18 AM   #2915
Malorajan
Glass Joe
 
Troll Warrior
 
Ner'zhul
Originally Posted by Krashnack View Post
I have prepared a simple Reforging Tool for patch 4.0.1. This excel sheet provides all the reforging mechanics in game. (Well even more :P) You will be able to see the exact character info page in game.

This is not a DPS Spreadsheet. It only provides reforging without spending money and save your configuration. Currently I am trying to write a solver add-in for reforging.

Known Issues are:
Items only ilvl 264+ are available in the list. You need to manually add other items.
You can Reforge to a stat that is already on the item.
Meta gem bonus works all the time.
Item gem bonuses are working manually

Excel 2010: http://rapidshare.com/files/42711489...m_Reforge.xlsx
Excel 97-2003: http://rapidshare.com/files/42711523...em_Reforge.xls
The download limit for the 2010 version was reached, can you please upload it to mediafire?

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Old 10/26/10, 8:43 AM   #2916
Krashnack
Glass Joe
 
Orc Warrior
 
Twisting Nether (EU)
Didn't know it has a download limit of 10 :/

Excel 2010: 4.0.1-Item Reforge.xlsx
Excel 97-2003: 4.0.1-Item Reforge.xls

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Old 10/31/10, 3:18 PM   #2917
Furiouslickles
Glass Joe
 
Orc Warrior
 
The Forgotten Coast
Originally Posted by Devlin1991 View Post
If anyone has TAiaJ 264/277, would you be able to test if the extra melee swing generates rage, I have looked through the wowhead and thottbot comments but was not able to find any answer to this.

I would assume this would be a very nice trinket post 4.0 if it generated rage from the proc.
I personally haven't noticed any rage generation from the additional attack. And with it being 50% weapon damage, the rage generation wouldn't be all that high. My combat log doesn't record any rage generation from weapon attacks so I can't be sure.

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Old 11/02/10, 7:20 AM   #2918
Vistana
Glass Joe
 
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Tauren Death Knight
 
Jubei'Thos
Originally Posted by ComMcNeil View Post
having a look in the comments of this Last Word - Item - World of Warcraft , it seems it does have a 100% uptime. Would this be a viable offhand weapon as a SMF Fury warrior? Speed is not that good unfortunately.
I've actually been using Heroic Black Bruise and Heroic Last Word as Single Minded Fury since they both dropped last Wednesday. Haven't had ample opportunity to test them, but I'll link you a log: (skip the Ruby Sanctum logs, tanked them.)
World of Logs - Real Time Raid Analysis
Showed good damage on the fights compared to the other two TG warriors (one of which has Shadowmourne), but my Sindragosa damage was mediocre, but I'd like to think that's because the faster weapons stack up Chilled to the Bone a lot quicker than imagined (took more damage than anyone from CttB).

To answer your questions about viability, I find its mixed: it has a damage modifier through it's 100% uptime of the Str Proc (which is > than the AP on other weapons, due to buffs like Kings and Plate Spec.), but unfortunately lacks Crit, and I was finding that this was directly affecting both my Flurry uptime, and Rage Regen.

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Old 11/03/10, 3:53 AM   #2919
Jameth
Glass Joe
 
Human Warrior
 
Proudmoore
Originally Posted by Furiouslickles View Post
I personally haven't noticed any rage generation from the additional attack. And with it being 50% weapon damage, the rage generation wouldn't be all that high. My combat log doesn't record any rage generation from weapon attacks so I can't be sure.
While I do not believe that TAiaJ attacks would result in any rage gains, I wanted to point out that unless there were some form of reduced rage gen mechanic specific to the attack the fact that it only dones 50% weapon damage is irrelevant as to how much rage it would gain. Damage => Rage is gone, now it is simply Attacks => Rage. The only time there is lesser rage gain from an attack is if it specifically is designated to receive less rage (such as offhand attacks - I believe).

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Old 11/04/10, 12:24 PM   #2920
Paradosi
Von Kaiser
 
Orc Warrior
 
Kargath
I use Black Bruise & Keleseth's Seducer and so far the results have been pretty good. Last night I got around 22k DPS on Marrowgar so AE damage with SMF is still very good and on Saurfang I did around 20k DPS. With better strength based 1H weapons in Cata, I could see SMF being very strong unless they drastically change something between now and then.

Question though! Now I think 3/3 Deep Wounds will be better for TG @ 85, but how about for SMF? Do you guys think 3/3 Incite & 2/3 Deep Wounds will be stronger with 1H weapons? Especially considering how low crit rate usually is early in an expansion which hurts Deep Wounds but just makes Incite more attractive.

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Old 11/05/10, 2:31 PM   #2921
Renost
Glass Joe
 
Worgen Warrior
 
Greymane
The responses so far about if TAiaJ generates rage have so far not seemed confident, so I checked on this mechanic as well. The Manifest Anger proc does not generate rage. My setup was using the 277 TAiaJ and wielding Shadowmourne with no offhand. When I reached 6 stacks I would stop, let my rage drop down to 0 and then continue, watching the rage bar rather than depending on any add-on trackers in case they report inaccurately. I had Manifest Anger proc 25 times, and on every melee swing, regardless of whether or not the proc occurred, I gained exactly 24 rage. The Manifest Anger proc collection did include both hits and crits, not that I'd expect that to matter though.

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Old 11/18/10, 9:43 PM   #2922
iddqd84
Glass Joe
 
Orc Warrior
 
Gorgonnash (EU)
Originally Posted by Krashnack View Post
I have prepared a simple Reforging Tool for patch 4.0.1. This excel sheet provides all the reforging mechanics in game. (Well even more :P) You will be able to see the exact character info page in game.

This is not a DPS Spreadsheet. It only provides reforging without spending money and save your configuration. Currently I am trying to write a solver add-in for reforging.

Known Issues are:
Items only ilvl 264+ are available in the list. You need to manually add other items.
You can Reforge to a stat that is already on the item.
Meta gem bonus works all the time.
Item gem bonuses are working manually

Excel 2010: http://rapidshare.com/files/42711489...m_Reforge.xlsx
Excel 97-2003: http://rapidshare.com/files/42711523...em_Reforge.xls

The sheet is crashing for me when i select Taiga Bindings HC, the values for hit, crit etc all show "NV"...

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Old 12/20/10, 9:50 AM   #2923
vpchelko
Banned
 
Gnome Warlock
 
Ясеневый лес (EU)
Name: Хог
Server: Ясеневый Лес
Site: eu.wowarmory.com

Armory fetching does not work:

(module 10 (code))
'Incite
Worksheets("Fury").range("ar12").value = CInt(Mid$(talents, 62, 1)) <--- error is here

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Old 12/30/10, 4:01 PM   #2924
landsoul
Myrmidon Champion
 
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Worgen Warrior
 
Alterac Mountains
This thread should be locked for new posts. Please don't post here anymore. I will make a new thread when I release the new one. As soon as the timesink of character / raid progression slows down for me I will have loads of time to work on it.

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