The epic gems are in, just the JC gems and the +10 stats are not. These can be changed easy on the Lookup page. AttT is in Z55, just change the 180 to 108. I did add a bunch of gear during the ptr time but lost it to a format.

I started using this spreadsheet a few weeks ago and it is certainly quite helpful in planning upgrades though as an Engineer it was a bit disappointing that there wasn't anything but the glove "enchant" included, I had to substitute other enchants that were somewhat close. Will more Engineering enchants will be added to the next version? Specifically to include the Flexweave Underlay (+23 Agi) and Nitro Boost (+24 Crit) now that they've been buffed.

I believe the boots are now 12 Crit 12 Hit + Nitro Speed

It was early on but they changed it to +24 Crit and dropped the hit. So it's not just Ice Walker with Nitro Boost.

Ah you are correct. I was referencing MMO-Champion:

"Nitro Boosts now increases critical strike and hit rating by 12 instead of just increasing critical strike rating by 16. It now lets you run faster for 5 sec (Up from 2 sec)."

But when you check the tooltip its 24 crit.

Hmm hope a new spreadsheet come out soon, looking at the Plated Greaves of Providence - Items - Sigrie (Plated Greaves of Providence) and seems like the may even be better then melancholy for arms.

Adding items in the Lookup tab is quite easy, and then you can use Landsoul's sort button to give you an idea of where it falls. I've been adding items as I see them, and haven't run into any issues.

Totally forgot about that, thanks for reminding me. There any way to important all the new items from the mmo-champion database?

Please be patient with this update. The amount of information I have to add is massive, and the checking and making sure stuff works is also very time consuming. On top of that, I am completely rebuilding the sheet from the ground up. Hopefully you can have it to try out by this weekend. You can only do one boss in the raid this week anyways, so just sit tight and relax.

We're not rushing you, we're just excited about the new update.

=)

Yar, earle hit the nail on the head. And yes there are tons of stuff needing updating. A very tedious process.

I show Greaves of the 7th legion as being a 66dps increase over Melancholy if you need all the expertise or a 44dps loss if you don't need any expertise. Obviously if you need 1/2 the expertise it's an 11dps increase. So SEP value does show 7th legion quite a bit higher than Melancholy Sabatons. It's difficult to say who will use the new boots. We may try for an extremely high ArP gear setup minus any ArP trinkets and Melancholy Sabatons seem an intricate part of such a setup. But those boots are kinda like what Obsidian Greathelm was. An excellent piece of gear if you can make it work.

I think it's issues like the above that make people so anxious. I just add items manually. I can wait patiently. But damn right i check for an update every 8 hours. lol

Earle, that's what I am doing. I totally regemmed for ArP, banked my MR and GT, and picked up the Banner of Victory from the 5 man regular Trial. Managed, with battle stance to hit 77%, and if I eat its around 80%. I am missing ArP bracers still, but damn it's a good start. Our server has been pretty rocky, so I haven't had much chance to test out the setup yet

I manually added the trinket to the spreadsheet, and to my dismay it caused some ##NA (I think) errors. Also I simply named the gems in the lookup page, and it made the import work properly. I know you are doing a complete overhaul and fixing this, I just figured I'd point it out.

Thanks again Landsoul, this sheet is awesome.

After some searching I haven't come up with any relevant information. Would Banner of Victory and Grim Toll be a better combination than the Greatness card and Grim Toll?

I do not know the internal cool down or proc rate on the Banner, but if it was similar to the Greatness card, I would assume the Banner to be a better trinket. The passive 84 ArP is very nice, and the 1008AP proc is more AP than the Greatness card with the base Str and the proc Str combined.

Sorry, need to clarify. As Arms, the AP proc from Banner is more than the combined AP of the passive Str and proc Str from Greatness. As Fury, the passive Str and proc Str combined, with Kings, would come out to 1014AP. But again, if the proc rate is the same, I would be curious as to which is better.

Considering the proc is 15 seconds on the Greatness card and only 10 seconds on Banner, it may still be the card that wins out, and the passive AP on the card may be better than the 84 ArP on the Banner until a certain passive ArP level.

I think I've also found a problem with a item from Ulduar, I've been playing with the spread sheet and when I got to the shoulders, the ones from Auriaya25, Shoulderplates of the Eternal (not sure about the name) were a dps loss against the t7.5 shoulders although I was over 55% ArP on the spreadsheet and ironically the t8,5 shoulders would be a pretty big dps gain (about 50dps) to the t7.5 ones although they have almost the same stats as the ones from Auriya. With both those shoulders (the ilvl226 ones) I am over the hit cap and the soft armor pen cap the only difference would be the +6 crit rating gain from Shoulderplats of the Eternal so that should theoretically mean a dps gain, not a loss. I also put the same gem on both shoulders the only difference that one the t8.5 i hit the socket bonus but that is only 4str which should be more than compensated by the +6 crit from the other ones. Could someone shed some light why there's a more than 100dps difference between the two even though the difference should be more like 1-2dps? This is why I think there's a problem with Shoulderplates of the Eternal.

It might be that the T8.5 shoulders are activating the 4-piece set bonus when you equip them. That would account for the jump in dps.

Easy way to test this is to edit Mirror of Truth in the sheet to give ArP rather then crit, the proc is more or less identical.

With my gear setup it showed that full ArP gemming with Greatness and the Banner was slightly better then full str using GT and Greatness.

I also threw togther a quick ToC gear setup using the banner and managed to reach hit/exp cap and 100% ArP while using an axe while still wearing full plate. Could the banner be the new Shard of Contempt?

Hope to see the new sheet soon Landsoul, been itching to test all the new gear and combos. Threw something in the donation pot too, figured I'd at least pick up dinner while you're working so hard on the new spreadsheet.

I'm broke.

The link is broken. Filefront timeouts.

I'm not sure but I think I was also swapping with another piece in the set so that even without the shoulders there would be the 4p tier bonus but as I said I'm not sure so it could also be as you say, I'm going to try this as soon as get the chance.

Just wanted to say thanks. I rely on this sheet a lot and I'm sure you don't get much for the time you put into working on it. I look forward to the update as well. We appreciate you, Landsoul, even if we come across as ungrateful jerks sometimes.

Thanks Landsoul and all the guys doing the heavy duty here =p.
I play in a 10man only guild, and would like to ask if you guys, if possible of course, can make a "bis" list for the 10man versions of Ulduar and the new raid.
I have made my personal list, but i would like a more "mathematical" list, just to be sure if i made many wrong choices.