I've been getting an error importing from regular US armory. It's been having trouble pulling out my talent trees, but gets my gear just fine. I suspect it may have to do with dual specc, but don't quote me on that one. I was going to wait for Landsoul's most recent sheet before reporting the error, because chances are it'll be fixed.

How much arp rateing you exactly need to have 100%arp with sunder and ff? thx for help.

I thought the import system broke with the last armory flash update, did Landsoul fix it?

Same amount as if you didn't have Sunder and FF.

I'm probably going to leave talents out of the armory pull this build and fix it later.

We need the next version Landsoul! :-) Must have new numbers to toy with! :-D

Thanks for all the hard work.

Hey guys, New poster here.

As I was reading the thread this week-end, I figured I'd try to help determining the glance chance and maybe save Landsoul some 25-50k attacks in afk mode.

There is no way we could get a big enough sample of attacks from 1 person to determine with a small margin of error the glance chance. So I thought of posting a "standard" protocol for some autoattacking tests to try and get autoattack samples from a lot of lvl 80 warriors.

If any of you wants to contribute, you can PM me your recount SS and I'll compile all the results. We could even get far more than 25-50k attacks this way but the results would only be relevant if we all follow the same protocol for the test. We could also use this to confirm with solid numbers the expertise cap/hit cap etc.

I'll be running my own tests using this setup:
. Orc warrior, Level 80
. Attacking training dummy from behind, without any armor or equipment with any stat.
. I'll be using a weapon that's not an axe (to not get any expertise from racial)
. No talents whatsoever for the test (completely empty talent trees, mainly to not get precision, weapon mastery, Str of arms)

So, to reproduce the test with almost any other warrior you should:
. Have empty talent trees
. Have no hit / expertise at all from your gear (I'd recommend naked to avoid repair costs)
. Not be a Draenei ...
. Not use a Sword/Mace if you're a human
. Not use a Mace if you're a dwarf
. Not send a sample that's too small for it to still be relevant and useful (I'm thinking about 2.5-5k attacks per sample should be fine and it would be great if I could get 10-20 samples). Of course, If you have time to provide a bigger sample, it's better.

If I missed anything relevant for the tests, please tell me !

Wouldn't it be better to dual-wield two very fast weapons... say two daggers perhaps? More white swings in lower amount of time = large sample set size in less time, no? Plus, I'm pretty sure the glance chance is the same with DW as with non-DW so this should not affect the results (correct me if I am wrong of course).

Mah 1st Post

Using the current sheet, I was able to make a set of gear reaching 9570 dps. I don't know if its higher than what you posted, but it might be interresting to compare. Fury Spec. Thats with BS and JC. No 4P Tier 9 Bonus calculated. Using Fish Feast.

Edit: Added 91 Crit rating for 2P Tier 9 Bonus, Changed Value of Dragon's Eye from 27 to 34 Arp. (Thanks Crillick)

Total:
100.24% ARP
250 Hit rating
214 Expertise Rating

Helm: Wrynn's Helmet of Triumph (258) Retenless Meta, + 10 all stats
Neck: Collar of Ceaseless Torment (10 H) +20 Arp
Shoulders :Wrynn's Shoulderplates of Triumph (258) +20 Arp
Back: Vereesa's Dexterity (25H-TH) +20 Arp, +10Exp+10Hit
Chest: Wrynn's Battleplate of Triumph (258) +20Arp, +34Arp
Wrists: Bracers of the Untold Massacre (25 H) +20Arp, +20Arp
Gloves: Gloves of Bitter Reprisal (25 H) +20Arp, +20Arp
Waist: Belt of Deathly Dominion (25 H) +10exp+10Hit, +20Arp, +20Arp
Legs: Wrynn's Legplates of Triumph (258) +10Exp+10Hit, +20Arp
Boots: Greaves of the 7th Legion (25 H) +10Exp+10Hit, +20Str

Ring 1: Planestalker Signet (10 H) +20Arp
Ring 2: Gormok's Band (10 H) +20Arp

Trinket 1: Banner of Victory (5)
Trinket 2: Death's Verdict (25 H)

Weapon 1: Justicebringer (25 H) +34Arp,+20Arp
Weapon 2: Justicebringer (25 H) +34Arp,+20Arp

Ranged: Talonstrike (25 H) +20Exp

Wow, I realize that getting this set of gear will probably only be possible to maybe .1% or less of the warrior population out there but those "wait till 3.3 for TG to take the nerf from 10% to 15% or 20%" jokes don't seem so far fetched now.

Either way a 100% arp all the time fury warrior seems amazing. With that gear you'd definitely be able to HS or Cleave 100% of the time pretty much.

Hello, for some reason I'm unable to download the 2007 one, keeps saying file not found, by any chance anyone could upload the file to other site I would appreciate it

I don't know if the glance chance is the same when dual wielding, but I see no reason why it wouldn't be. Anyway, i'm testing at the moment with 2x1h swords at 1.4 speed. I'll let you know when I have a decent sample of attacks if I think the tests can be done this way. I'd use daggers, but it's not maxed out yet for me !

So how does gemming for strength work out, along with an ArP trinket?

I have reached 9556 on the spreadsheet and I still have yet to write a formula for the Tier 9 4 piece.

Helm: Wyrnn's Helmet of Triumph (25H) [Relentless][10 Stats]
Neck: Collar of Ceasless Torment (10H) [+20 ArP]
Shoulders: Wrynn's Shoulderplates of Triumph (25H) [+27 ArP]
Back: Vereesa's Dexterity (25HT) [+20 ArP]
Chest: Wrynn's Battleplate of Triumph (25H) [+20 ArP][+20 ArP]
Bracers: Bracers of Untold Massacre (25H) [+20 ArP][+20 ArP]
Gloves: Gloves of Bitter Reprisal (25H) [+20 ArP][+20 ArP][+20 ArP]
Waist: Bloodbath Girdle (25H) [+20 ArP][+20 ArP][+20 ArP]
Legs: Wrynn's Legplates of Triumph (25H) [+27 ArP][+10 Str +10 Hit]
Feet: Greaves of the 7th Legion (25H) [+27 ArP][+10 Str +10 Hit]
Ring1:Gormok's Band (10H) [+20 ArP][+20 ArP]
Ring2:Planestalker Signet (10H) [20 ArP]
Trinket1: Death's Verdict (25H)
Trinket2: Comet's Trail (U25)
Weapon1: Justicebringer (25H)[+20 ArP][+20 ArP]
Weapon2: Justicebringer (25H)[+20 ArP][+20 ArP]
Ranged: Talonstrike (25H) [+20 ArP]

And now to the plus stat colloumn to accomidate the changes till the new spreadsheet,

+10 Agi (10 stat gem)
+91 Crit (2p Tier 9 Bonus)
+41 ArP (Since you can't add 2nd Ring Slot and +21 for Dragon's Eye)

This leaves you with
170 Hit
27 Exp
92.40 ArP
41.14 Crit
5499 AP

I tried that as well, keeping the Runestone, as it is the better of the two. It is significantly lower, unless I was missing something.

Which dummy? Same-level? Or boss-level?

Boss level sorry, didn't mention it ...

Dual wielding doesnt seem to affect the glance chance like it was pointed out in a previous post. In the SS I'm posting is a 13k hit sample, more to come during the week, i'll try to post a summary when I have about 100k hits overall or so.

http://i916.photobucket.com/albums/a...h13382hits.jpg

Because 84 *1.45 is still only 121 that isn't modified by anything, where as the Comet's Trail static stat (262 AP Raid buffed) is roughly 132 Str equivalent.

The proc on the Banner is also only 1000 AP so roughly 1100 (raid buffed) / 2 = 550 str. Even at .77 SEP for haste, 726 haste is roughly 559 Str.

It's not a whole lot better, but it's better. About 30 DPS. I agree though on the easy to farm thing, lol.

[edit] Those values might change based on the difference in belt. I did those calculations with the SEP values from my setup. I'll check 'em against the mail belt when I get a minute later.

Yeah, this is basically a whichever drops first case to me, similar to the margin of difference between Comet's Trail and the Banner. Will have to see how it turns out with the new spreadsheet.

Yup, same result. Wound up roughly 400 DPS behind.

Dangerously close to a cross-post, I know, but how well is Mongoose modelled in the spreadsheet? In my current-gear Fury setup, Mongoose is almost neck-and-neck with Berserking, and would like to know if this is anomalous due to bad/out-of-date/incorrect modelling.

Mongoose is up to date. It's in line with zerking if your crit is low enough and you have more AP compared to it. I'm gonna try working on some more tonite and hopefully get a working release out by tomorrow. I've been very busy lately and I was not able to finish when I said, so sorry.

Edit: Also, how do you get wowhead item links to work with heroic items?

[item]item#[ /item]:

[Hellscream's Helmet of Triumph]

To more elaborately explain the above, the items are two separate ID's in the database, not just an elevated version of the same ID.

[Dual-blade Butcher] -ID 47446

[Dual-blade Butcher] -ID 47285

Same name, one heroic, one not, different ID.

At least, I believe that's the question you were asking.

whats the estimated range of Crit/AP for mongoose to work? roomate is leveling his old BC warrior so it might be a useful enchant for him