Originally Posted by rebrebreb
Hi, for some reason using the spreadsheet dual mongoose gives me a minor dps increase over zerking.. is this a bug? If not what is causing this? Thanks
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With low crit rates and high AP/haste its a possibility. Mongoose is 132 agi (kings) and 64 haste rating from proc. Berserking is around 400 AP gain but also 27 loss from AttT so its around 186x(2AP) vs 132 Agi+64 Haste. Given how agi and haste and 2AP values are always around same novadays its very close.
Berserking gains with:
- Ilvl , AP is most uniformely increasing stat when you upgrade gear.
- more STR and AP
Mongoose gains with
- Low Crit levels - increasing Agility worth from mongoose
- High Haste rating - increasing Haste contribution from mongoose (i said 64 haste for the rough comparison - but mongoose gives flat 2% haste, not dependant on the ratings, and multiplicable with other haste sources)
- High Hit rating - increasing haste contribution again from increased white/heroic usage.
Coliseum seemed to get mixed impact on mongoose but usually positive:
- Str items are most widely used (with 1 mail piece in BiS), some useful STR jewelry, and STR proccing trinket
- Haste is very low currently, which reduces a bit the mongoose effectiveness
- Crit is higher then in ulduar, but it didnt get as much as other stats
Right now Id say theoretically its worth to switch to mongoose. Depending on gear it might be a few dps drop or gain, but its a very significant rage and haste upgrade for "cleave fights" like anub, jaraxxus , and depending on strat other fights. When the only hard fight requires you to cleave, increasing your effectiveness on it seems to be best.
I havent done it myself mostly because of laziness, but there is one more thing to consider - crit cap. A lot of Coliseum setups will run very close to white crit cap - so mongoose can drop radically for those, as much of agility benefit (and almost all benefit to rage generation) will be lost.