Personally I run SEP almost anytime I make a change. The DPS figure is usually accurate without running SEP but to more clearly see which stat is your best to gem or enchant the SEP numbers can be a big help. So I'd say run SEP if you're looking at the SEP values to make decisions.

Do we allready have an ETA on the new Sheet?
Maybe i missed the posting somewhere, would be nice to see an update very soon, to calculate with the new formulas.

I got tied up with work, raids, dailies, etc this week, but I'm gonna try for it being done sometime sunday or monday. All I have left is the arms flowchart, linking those flowchart tree legs into ability attempts per second, some macro referencing, and the best upgrade per slot macros, and then maybe an hour of two for testing to make sure nothing is funky and everything is where I want it to be.

This has already been proven possible, what I am wondering is at what passive ArP % will we need (As Fury) before it shows a dps gain over GT or MR and STR gems etc.

If it's around 80% then being that that is very doable even at slow progression rates I think that this would be the best choice us to gear towards.

Probably moot as an update is imminent but the excel 2007 filefront link is failing.
Just thought I should let someone know.

Just confirming the soft cap on ARP while using the Grim Toll.

I'm currently at 47% ARP listed in Land's spread sheet. If my ARP goes below 47% the SEP for ARP shoots up above 1. If I go above 47% ARP the SEP for ARP drops below 1 and starts to plummet the higher I get above 47%.

I thought I kept reading in this thread about the soft cap being 50% ARP while using one of the ARP trinkets.

Anyways right now based on the spread sheet I should be gemming for strength once I achieve 47% ARP. Does this sound correct?

Check out post #1333. The default food in the spreadsheet is 40 ArP. 40/12.31=3.25%

While working on the Arms flowchart still I started to notice that with all the different combinations of latency, strike strengths, dodge rate, SD procs, Bladestorm or not, etc I'm ending up with 40k-60k end results of abilities used between rends. After spending a few hours of arriving at the percent chance to arrive at only 5 of them, I'm deciding to scrap it and think of some other way. You figure there are 12-18 GCDs and 5 different ways to use them, that's at most 18 to the 5th power. I'm going back to a version of my old method of estimation.

How to add new items to the spreadsheets? And if there a version with them already updated?

Was this something you got from the sheet or some program you wrote to calculate a reasonable average that is used as a constant in the sheet? I had the idea of trying the latter for finding a fury rage model, but I dont think its flexible enough. I hear the Excel macros/scripts are powerful enough to do such things as well, but I would imagine calculation time would skyrocket and it just becomes a simulator.


Find probability of having rage >= X in time t (probably the time of 1 rotation).
Given:
static swing speed(sheet already uses an average anyway)
static damage range
static hit table (miss, glance, hit, crit)

It gets very messy factoring in 2 weapons, and I don't know how to, or if it is even possible to simplify that to a formula the sheet can use or a macro can brute force without taking forever. I would appreciate it if someone could either solve or disprove this idea as I seem to be fixated on this aspect.


Edit: The instructions for adding items are explained on the front page of the sheet.

Yes, but the turn out would be far greater if u can add in Heroic Strike into it. Other words keep BT/WW on cooldown and execute, burn some rage off with Heroic Strike. Go under the thread " In-Depth Fury DPS Discussion " there are some info there too