Does anyone know how much 3pts in Enrage will help my damage for raid, what im getn at is it worth specing into? cause i have around 90% damage then when Enrage procs i get around 6% damage increase..bringing me to a total of 96% increase, with death wish proced i get 108% total damage increase.. if they both proc together it brings me to 114% total damage increase the thing is though sometimes they wouldnt be proced together because of the 2 min cooldown on DW. So it would fluctuate from 90% to 96% then to 114%...

any suggestions would be helpful...thanks.

This has been covered extensively. In nearly all situations, AoE in raids does not cause rage, and thus cannot cause Enrage to proc. You would have to be directly targeted by a mob's ability for it to have the capability of procing Enrage. The only examples I can think of are the ranged fireballs that Razorscale shoots, some of the stuff Stormcaller Brundir casts, or maybe getting hit by the Corruptor Tentacles on Yogg. Other than that, taking a survivable melee hit by adds or trash is the only other thing that could proc Enrage.

Thus, it doesn't help in raids. Just spend the points in Commanding Presence or Improved Demoralizing Shout and help your raid.

I have a question about trinkets. I am currently really high(414) on hit due to a minimum of gear choices but have Grim toll equipped because it was all i had. Now I have mirror of truth and the greatness card but cant decide if I want to use the card with GT or MoT. Yes, I will be hit heavy but ill lose the ArP proc. Is it better to keep the mirror on with the passive crit or to be really high on hit and have occassionally ArP procs? I am currently at 36% ArP.

Depends on the rest of your gear. I recommend downloading the spreadsheet, entering your gear, and checking the results for the different combinations of your trinkets.

I am in the same situation as Mojojica with more then adiquate hit rating. The spread sheet was helpfull, yes Grim Toll is the better trinket choice, aslong as your expertise in the 20-26 range from other gear. Good raid buffs make up for a lower crit rating but don't add ArPen or expertise. If your low on expertise try to get the Mark of Norgannon trinket from Malagos, try using it in the spreadsheet to see what is best for you.

This has probably already been stated several times, or maybe I'm missing something here, but does anyone else feel like Fury's 45 Point Talent Unending Fury is just pointless?

Why don't they just take off the 10% cut on TG and turn that talent into something more useful for us. Right now they negate each other almost. Just seems like a filler talent now if you ask me with the changes to TG.

Yo, I was just wondering what potion will maximize my dps. Is it
Insane strength pot or
Potion of speed ?

Thanks in advance fellaz ^^

You can use Potion of Speed during BL and/or in execute phase to maximize its effect.
Another possible option is [Indestructible Potion] that due to Attt is around 58AP before buffs and is 2 minutes long.

For very short fights the burst from a 15s potion of speed seems superior on average (you'd need haste to be 0.24 SEP to be inferior to Insane Strength one).

You want to use the potion when Death Wish is up. That can either be the first, second (or third depending on the length of the fight) and may or may not coincide with Bloodlust. I generally save them for the last Death Wish simply because it's a waste to use them at the start of a progression fight in the likelyhood of a wipe. I'm also not sure what Bloodlust alone has to do with using a speed potion outside of Execute range either unless you're just assuming other effects are going on at that time as well.

Hi there i am a first time poster and long time reader. I have recently been using the Rawr gear/dps spreadsheet(i had it downloaded for my pally so i just thought i would use it for the warrior too)when i was using this it was telling me that all of the best in slot pieces were either leather or mail and that Agility was worth more than any other stat. EX. it told me that major agility to weapon was better than beserking. now im not really sure if maybe the Rawr thing is not updated or if it just isnt made for a warrior but i was just wondering if maybe anyone else was having this issue...if you use Rawr

thank you

I have Rawr but have not used it for a warrior. In general, it's a decent program but there is a lot more to setting it up than is readily evident. At no point, ever, does agility pass crit in dps value (or SEP) because crit equates to crit % faster than agility. So, if Rawr is telling you agility > crit, something is flat out wrong in the program or wrong in your inputs. The landsoul spreadsheet will yield more easily deciphered results. For my gear, agility has an SEP of about .75. It's not a bad stat. There are a lot of leather/mail pieces that are very good for dps due to their lower stamina investments and greater number of stats (investing in both AP and Agil yields more stat points than going entirely into str). In general, though, you should see some plate gear in the top 5 pieces of each slot. My crit is a little low so my gear lists favor some leather/mail more due to the higher crit but I still see a lot of plate at or near the top.

They are still affecting the displayed attack power in game.

Maybe I misunderstood this change in 3.0.8

Bonus Armor: The mechanics for items with bonus armor on them has changed (any cloth, leather, mail, or plate items with extra armor, or any other items with any armor). Bonus armor beyond the base armor of an item will no longer be multiplied by any talents or by the bonuses of Bear Form, Dire Bear Form, or Frost Presence.

If the potions still affect AP, then I guess they still work.

This change pertains to the armor on gear that appears in green digits. Basically, the armor that was added in addition to the standard armor at that item level.

I was checking yesterday and [Indestructible Potion] wasn't changing my Attack power at all during the 2 minutes. Also Armored to the teeth was updating instantly instead of in 15 second ticks when swapping to gear with different armor values. Which means equipping a shield on pulls and in no dps moments doesn't bring a temporary AP buff anymore.

You have to unequip one of your purples and equip it back.

Do you mean, that [Indestructible Potion] still affect AP?
If it do, does AP lower when Potion buff disappear?

I reached 47,09% with food buff, with Grim Toll = 100,031%, at this point i'm geming back to Str gems, just have enough Arpen gems to mantain the 100% cap on GT proc.

Yes, it still affects AP. If you lose the Potion Buff, you lose the AP you gained through AttT.

I'm at 54.64% ArP just from gear atm, guess that means i'll overcap with Mjolnir/GT. What's the average uptime on them though? Perhaps it would be better to go STR now.

Average up time for grim toll is about 20%, the spread sheet values strength higher than arp once over the cap with trinket proc.

I didnt see this anywhere else, but maybe its been covered

Is Executuioner a better OH enchant than Massacre for Fury (Assuming MH Berserking)? Seems like with a Grim Toll and not being over that 100% mark that it would yield mroe DPS than Massacre if you dont want to spend the cash on an OH Berserking...Spreadsheet doesn't have an Executioner option for enchants...