Well according to wowarmory u only have 1% more crit then me.

at least 1000dps I wont lie

It's really hard to answer your question from such small pieces of information, what are your stats?, are you hit/exp capped. Do you keep rend up playing arms etc. Maybe your PC sucks and you have 5 fps with 1000 ms ping.

Get some parse from boss fights so people here can take a look.

PS Any numbers from target dummies are meaningless.

Thanks spearrow for posting a real WWS.

As fury, I was close to BiS before ulduar, except a second betrayer offhand.

On patchwork over 3m (a slow kill) I'd see 5500 - 5900 DPS without hysteria or tricks. And the shorter the fight (less than 3m) the higher it would go. I also pulled 6, 7, and 8K DPS on sarth zerg as well.

Post 3.1 I did a patcherk sub 3m and I pulled 4200 DPS; I was a bit rusty missed a few cooldowns but mathed that out to 4500 DPS.

Needless to say Im pretty depressed. Like switch-to-arms kind of depressed. The only thing I noticed - no windfury. It was missing. But I think with windfury I'd still only get above the 5K mark? To rub salt in the wound, our DK's (who have gotton ulduar weapon, and maybe 1-2 upgrades) are 5800/5900. Maybe that one weapon and a couple ups means a whole lot though. We'll see.

So looking at your WWS you do take damage in this fight unlike patch so perhaps other fights will be a different story; I have yet to DPS ulduar (Im tanking) but I can see the massive DPS boost from incoming damage (rage) on ignis... xt... kologarn... hodir and others.

^ I guess whats important to note about the above, and previous WWS is that theres significant raid damage; odds are your not in a starve for rage.

Which I guess would make a big difference in balance; as a lot of fights in uldar do have great raid damage for us.

Well, Kologarn is by far the best for me (fury) fight i have experienced in Ulduar so far. 3 targets, two of them are always close to each other. What can i say, noone can beat warrior there in DPS if you dont get grabbed by the hand to often.

i respecced for 3 points in UW and IBR, along with frequent usage of bloodrage, and I'm having much fewer problems on the second week in Ulduar. I'm still annoyed that the DK/Pallies are kicking my butt usually but I'm getting closer.

Also, I reglyphed for the execute glyph before getting into Ulduar, but after 2 weeks of it, I'm planning on going back to cleave. There are several fights where that extra target will really push up your dps. Off the top of my head, Razorscale adds, Kologarn, Thorim (in the arena), Hodir (if you break out the iced adds that are clumped), Auriya (when cats are up), Freya adds, Mimiron phase 3. Execute just doesn't seem to add enough, especially since it's usually just a rage dump below 20%.

After some raids in Ulduar now I can fairly say that there should no such thing as a guild's 'fury warrior' or 'arms warrior'. The warrior doing dps should simply be the 'dps warrior'. I have found out that arms deals significantly more damage on the single-target encounters, that sometimes have a multiple component but are nonetheless mostly single-target (e.g. XT-002, Mimiron). Fury deals significantly more damage on those encounters that consist mainly of multi-targetting such as Razorscale or Thorim arena. On those encounters fury is still quite able to top the dps list.

After all, what would the benefit be of me using an arms spec in Thorim Arena? Or me using a fury spec on Mimiron? it only results in the loss of raid damage. The buffs the particular spec grant are usually being brought by other classes as well (paladins/druids/combat rogues). Therefore i'm dual-speccing through the instance, switching specs (and respective gear) to bring out whatever pumps out the most damage.

Yiqa i agree with you if you have a feral druid. The problem is not every raid does. We don't have one. So we would lose raid damage. So we need 1 arms warriors for Trauma and 1 fury warrior for Rampage.

Phatha glad it helps with the rage and overall dps. I also agree with the Cleave glyph. Currently i find it to be more useful as well. I guess which glyph you use will really depend on which bosses it helps the most on. Or it may be best to Glyph for bosses that give you the most difficulty.

Polishedhead this sentence. "if you NEVER lack rage to BT/WW/Slam then you aren't using HS enough.". I know what you meant by it. But it can be taken the wrong way. Took me reading it 3 times to figure it out. Go with your first sentence "We are all told that HS use should never leave you without enough rage to BT/WW/Slam." as that is correct and will cause less confusion.

I am also doing some spec dancing depending on the boss, but as fury Im happy how the 2nd week was with more information and how to optimize skills for each fight.

One thing I don't fully understand is Deep Wounds. It has gone down to do 12-13% of my damage. And its average ticks are way lower than pre 3.1. I didn't see any change on 3.1 that directly affected Deep Wounds so I don't know why it has become weaker. It double dips negatively from Titan's Grip penalty or there has been some change to it I have missed?

Odd. My arms dominates multi-target fights. My fury...well it sucks, but it does ok on single target. Bladestorm/Sweeping/Cleave >>> Whirlwind/Cleave for multi target. I may try fury again when I get a better off-hand, but I'm putting out way better numbers as Arms and I enjoy the rotation a lot more than boring fury.