Just checking .. You have seen the little talent that reduces the cooldown of your overpower by 4 seconds and increases it's damage by 20% haven't you? combined with just about every overpower being a crit . I'd say it comes out ahead of your MS, and probably your execute. (weapon depending).
Overpower lights up every 6 seconds from when it last lit up. Overpoer does not light up based on when you last used it. Therefore there is no reason to use it as soon as it lights up.
You are third person on this fricking page posting about it. Yes we know it already.
Waiting for flood of 'should I regem back to Str from ArP' questions.
[Removed in light of GC saying that Sunder/Shattering Throw will stack ontop of any cap implemented]
Assuming that they dont cap it, wouldn't mace spec reign supreme? 15% Armor ignore at >200% ArP be better than +5% Crit and +5% crit damage at >200% ArP? I still hear everyone see everyone going axes O.o.
[Removed because I misread the post. Thought he posted something from left field]
Are you sure? The tooltip reads that taste for blood cannot proc more than once every 6s. Doesn't suggest that overpower can only be used once every 6s. I'm expertise capped and I almost 100% sure that I've had back to back overpowers before.
Time
0.0 rend applied
3.0 rend tick ->Taste for blood active
..
6.0 rend tick
..
9.0 rend tick ->Taste for blood active
If you hit OPat 8s you get another one at 9s, simple as that.
If you don't use the charge in the 6s window next rend tick will simply overwrite it giving another 6s window of opportunity.
Not to be blunt, but this thread has become bloated of people just debating obvious things that have been discussed months ago. Just do a basic search or better, try it yourself.
I'm in need of some help increasing my overall dps in 10 and 25 man raids. A quick run down I have had my warrior for a few years but recently started to play her again and for the first time raid with her. I'm a former pre wrath t-6 warlock and never had the issue pre wrath with raid dps, at this time I only pvped as Arms with my warrior. I've always played as an Arms warrior and love it to death. I'm really not fond of the whole fury spec or skills , <3 MS. I'm aware of most the basic's with all raiding and have obtained , Hit cap, working on expertise, and usally socket for strenght , crit then ap. I have 15.10% Arp gear rating atm but a horrible axe (de-raged 75 quest item) terrible luck so far and really do not want to create teh titansteel at this point for reasons as soon as I do the nice 10 or 25 wep will drop plus my hit is upwards to 9% atm. Below is my Armory link ...
Some key points I do charge in, rend, MS, BS or slam, Op each time its up , always keep rend up , use MS when its up and sudden death. When target is below 20% hp I do use Excute alot decent numbers but not sure how effective this is. My dps ranges from 2200-3200 depending on my luck and the fight, some of the fights with debuffs and buffs where you actually have a buff from the spore etc.. its around 4100-4200...
Any ideas or help here, I really dont wanna go to fury as I figure I'd strugle there and with possible changes to Arms and buffing Fury back up is that the only way to compete with DK's dowing lowend of 3500-5500 dps on fights consistant?
We are now considering capping armor penetration at 100%. Armor could no longer go negative. We're not sure if we would do this in a hotfix or in 3.1.2. We just wanted to let anyone know who is furiously trying to acquire every armor pen item in the game.
Note that there is not a not a cap on the amount of armor that can be reduced in WoW at the moment. Also note that capping armor penetration at 100% does not mean that you can always reduce every target's armor to 0%. The tooltip says "up to" for a reason.
We made armor pen a better stat in a previous patch. I am fairly confident that many of the posts above decrying this as a nerf are over-estimating how close to removing more than 100% armor you really were. Even if you have two armor pen trinkets and they both proc simultaneously, that is going to be very low uptime. This is not a nerf. It's a preventative measure to keep things from breaking at future tiers of gear or in really exotic situations.
- GC
It's only conjecture at my part but I can imagine if ArP remained as it is it would become the King of all stats for entering icecrown,though capping at 100% seems a bit rough handed. DR beyond 100% would mean Dual-trinket procs won't entirely screw you over versus a single ArP trink/other proc trink combo
Hi, I'm kinda confused with my equipments. I 've seen plates dealing awesome dps in leather gears that boost crits as they commonly comes with crits and AP. I have seen pple claiming dpsing 5kdps and above, but I just can't exceed the 4k mark. At times even drop to barely past 3.6k...
I had made my list of equipment (Including leather) form LootRank but I use the normal default template so I'm not sure if its useful for Arms past 3.1 or not.
I am not very sure about what cap to hit for Crit, Str, ArPen and Haste. And in which priority. I just up whichever I can.
I am rotating my skills in the general priority keeping rend up after the last sec:
OK i know everyone is sick of the question sword spec, axe or mace bla bla. I'll probably get banned for this but w/e i have asked smarter questions than half the stuff on here and still got banned, so here it goes.
I know axe is OP atm and I'm doing sick dps with 60% arp+ and grim toll making it like 110% + so what I'm wondering is if i have a higher I lvl sword than my axe, you link its worth giving it a try?
I would use the spread sheet but for some reason when I DL it it doesn't show the total DPS in the top left like it should, its just blank, is that because i use open office or am I doing something wrong?
OK i know everyone is sick of the question sword spec, axe or mace bla bla. I'll probably get banned for this but w/e i have asked smarter questions than half the stuff on here and still got banned, so here it goes.
I know axe is OP atm and I'm doing sick dps with 60% arp+ and grim toll making it like 110% + so what I'm wondering is if i have a higher I lvl sword than my axe, you link its worth giving it a try?
I would use the spread sheet but for some reason when I DL it it doesn't show the total DPS in the top left like it should, its just blank, is that because i use open office or am I doing something wrong?
A couple things:
1) "I" is meant to be capitalized, using the lower case version of it will get you an infraction from the mods every time.
2) You can't measure an item on item level, you always look at the stats and how they impact your existing setup.
3) Yes, you will run into issues using Landsoul's spreadsheet in Open Office due to how macros work. I believe he states this in the first post on that topic.
4) Give it a try? Where? In PvE? In PvP? Raids? 10 or 25 man? Which fight? etc. There are far more details needed to help you out with this sort of question but usually you can figure it out on your own with trial and error. Also, the topic of sword spec has been discussed across the entire warrior sub forum in a few places.
I would use the spread sheet but for some reason when I DL it it doesn't show the total DPS in the top left like it should, its just blank, is that because i use open office or am I doing something wrong?
From the first post in the spreadsheet thread:
These spreadsheets are only compatible with and designed in Microsoft Excel '97 and '07. Please do not try to use them with Google Docs, Open Office, or any other spreadsheet program for they will not work.
according to this spread sheat i downloaded from here,seems that furious glad axe is the best weapon,i have a question about this,i believe that Earthshapper(yogg 25 mace) is however better,can anyone please help me with this :P im confused
I'm in need of some help increasing my overall dps in 10 and 25 man raids. A quick run down I have had my warrior for a few years but recently started to play her again and for the first time raid with her. I'm a former pre wrath t-6 warlock and never had the issue pre wrath with raid dps, at this time I only pvped as Arms with my warrior. I've always played as an Arms warrior and love it to death. I'm really not fond of the whole fury spec or skills , <3 MS. I'm aware of most the basic's with all raiding and have obtained , Hit cap, working on expertise, and usally socket for strenght , crit then ap. I have 15.10% Arp gear rating atm but a horrible axe (de-raged 75 quest item) terrible luck so far and really do not want to create teh titansteel at this point for reasons as soon as I do the nice 10 or 25 wep will drop plus my hit is upwards to 9% atm. Below is my Armory link ...
Some key points I do charge in, rend, MS, BS or slam, Op each time its up , always keep rend up , use MS when its up and sudden death. When target is below 20% hp I do use Excute alot decent numbers but not sure how effective this is. My dps ranges from 2200-3200 depending on my luck and the fight, some of the fights with debuffs and buffs where you actually have a buff from the spore etc.. its around 4100-4200...
Any ideas or help here, I really dont wanna go to fury as I figure I'd strugle there and with possible changes to Arms and buffing Fury back up is that the only way to compete with DK's dowing lowend of 3500-5500 dps on fights consistant?
Thanks
Caryllis
I'd say the Axe you have is a major problem. Get the TS mace, it's a very good starter weapon for raiding and if it puts you well over the hit cap then it will make it all the easier to replace your bracers and/or belt when you get an upgrade there. If you'd prefer an axe, then farm HoL for awhile until you get the axe there. I'd be willing to bet that either upgrade will spike your dps significantly.
according to this spread sheat i downloaded from here,seems that furious glad axe is the best weapon,i have a question about this,i believe that Earthshapper(yogg 25 mace) is however better,can anyone please help me with this :P im confused
Read the patch notes with yesterday's update, noticing only the Juggernaut nerf for us (not a major one, but frustrating considering everything else they've done against warrior lately). Didn't see any mention of ArP being changed yet. Anyone know if it has been through other notes or testing? Ulduar 10man yesterday seemed about the same for me, but I'm not ArP "capped" anyway.
ArP now caps at 100% (even if tooltip shows higher values). Battle stance and (possibly) mace spec lowers the cap from rating down to 90% and 75% respectively.
You are able to only remove 7774 armor from a 8089 armor target when hitting a boss, this means 315 armor left and 2.026% damage reduction left.
GT and Mjolnir procs gets a nerf when you are over 40% from gear. 25% if you are mace specced.
Armor penetration by itself isn't changed, so it is still worth a lot close to cap.
ArP now caps at 100% (even if tooltip shows higher values).
Has this been confirmed yet? All I've heard Ghostcrawler say is that they are considering a cap to ArP.
Originally Posted by Ghostcrawler
We are now considering capping armor penetration at 100%. Armor could no longer go negative. We're not sure if we would do this in a hotfix or in 3.1.2. We just wanted to let anyone know who is furiously trying to acquire every armor pen item in the game.
Since the patch notes mention nothing about adding a cap, I'm still under the assumption that they haven't implemented the cap yet. GC's response to this post also makes it seem like they are still considering alternatives to capping ArP.
Good time of day/night everyone, and now another boring plea of help
I have arms-war and another 80's, retri-pal, and, while retri slightly poorer suited, he give out more damage. Last day, however, war reached his top at 2.9 on Loatheb, but it just a peak, 'cause average damage in heroic-inst rarely more than 2k, and without Bladestrom falls to 1.6-1.7
His profile here, please help, if any want to spend his precious time.
Has this been confirmed yet? All I've heard Ghostcrawler say is that they are considering a cap to ArP.
Since the patch notes mention nothing about adding a cap, I'm still under the assumption that they haven't implemented the cap yet. GC's response to this post also makes it seem like they are still considering alternatives to capping ArP.
It appears according to Kwanza's post here, arp has been capped at 100%.
It appears according to Kwanza's post here, arp has been capped at 100%.
Yeah this is true, according to my tests this morning, you cannot get past more than 100% of a target's armor. Your tooltip can still say that you're at 200% or whatever, but it's not having any effect. I guess the next step is to figure out exactly how much ArP you need to hit zero depending on the presence of various buffs and debuffs, and then use those numbers for our sweet spots.
As I wrote in the other posts it is possible that you can't get past 100% Arp rating (not always corresponding to 100% armor) thus targets above 7616 will never be hit at 0 armor without Shattering throw or serrated blades (EDIT: Supposing those targets already have sunder and FF).
Wanted to bring this to everyone's attention, but blizzard posted about the following changes the weapons yesterday.
"The following weapons have had their speed changed to make them more optimized when used in PvE content compared to equivalent weapons obtained in the Arena:"
Golden Saronite Dragon
Remorse
Stonerender
Voldrethar, Dark Blade of Oblivion
Dark Edge of Depravity
Aesir's Edge
Hammer of Crushing Whispers
Caress of Insanity
As I wrote in the other posts it is possible that you can't get past 100% Arp rating (not always corresponding to 100% armor) thus targets above 7616 will never be hit at 0 armor without Shattering throw or serrated blades (EDIT: Supposing those targets already have sunder and FF).
Nope. I was able to 100% today without shattering throw, but with sunder and FF up.
It appears according to Kwanza's post here, arp has been capped at 100%.
Ok. Thanks for pointing that out. I hope that the cap is only viewed by Blizz as a temporary solution to how ArP is calculated currently. As this post suggests, there are ways Blizz can change the ArP calculation so that it scales above 100% without producing insane damage.
05/15/09, 12:56 PM
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