First time poster on these forums so please forgive me if i do something wrong :p

I have been reading and following this forums alot lately to try and up my dps to figure out if its my rotation/gear/gems or what it is and also to understand arm pen abit more. I have also downloaded the spreadsheet but cant seem to get it to work ( im not real great with spreadsheets anyway ). The one thing that i havnt really seen many posts on is how much arm pen i should stop at or if i should stop stacking it at all. With out including battle stance ive got just under 49% and im using grim toll and greatness trinkets ( will be awhile til i could get the MJ trinket ). So should i start stacking str gems now as im also using arm pen elixirs and food or should i just keep stacking as much arm pen as possible and ?

New execute change - capped to 30, thus no need to put that on the SD tooltip...seemed pretty straightforward not sure why people got confused there.

30rage cost-> more spamming. 100 rage exectues are effective in those fights when you take lots of damage of have additional damage buffs. It will be a dps increase overall imo.

The 30 Rage Execute was a PvP nerf becaus Warriors Cancelled their Suddendeath procc via macro to Kill people.

What does an Arms Warrior see in PvE? You will be able to spam Execute while under 20%, if your rage after a white hit is higher than 40 Rage or you got a SD procc you Execute twice. If you have a glancing white you will Rend -> Execute or op -> Execute. But if your at 100 Rage (Mjolnir + Darkmoon + Berserker +Shattering Crit (dont know if you need that much proccs) after a White hit what do you do with the 40 rage left? You could HS -> OP -> Execute or HS -> Rend -> Execute.

Bloodlust has lost effectiveness now for warries while under 20% you're not able to get your rage off ...

Another Topic I wan't to discuss is: Buffstacking like Tricks of the Trade + Enrage + Hysteria. It does not Work for Warrior.

Protection Warrior has Enrage as a Base Buff after a Block/Dodge/Parry, net effect of Tricks is ~4,4% Dmg buff in 6 Seconds + bonus Threat.
Arms Warrior has Enrage as a Base Buff after a Crit, effect of Tricks again ~4,4% and Hysteria is ~9.1% Buff.
For Furry Warrior Hysteria and Tricks work while Deathwish downtime.
So either Tricks nor Hysteria stack with Warrior selfbuffs which increase Dmg.

But why does it work with Savage Roar? Which is a 33% dmg increasing Selfbuff with around 90-100%. Uptime Like the Enrage effects of Prot and Arms Warrior.

I think there needs to be a Change with +x% dmg buffs being able to stack. If they are Bound to the Player they should be able to stack with short time Buffs from other Players.

Tricks and Hysteria dont stack, but Enrage + Hysteria or Enrage + Tricks or Deathwish + Hysteria should be able to stack. And Enrage + Deathwish should be able to stack, i dont see why it should not.

Enrage was nerfed to 10% and they have never stacked as 10% and 20% during S1+. Deathwish just overrode Enrage while it was up. They did stack for a time at 60 and when Warriors had the bugged 52 talent points Arms was pretty terrifying to fight against.


Edit: talent number corrected.

This isn't right. Enrage was a 25% DIM buff until patch 3.0. It stacked in fact with Death Wish as a 20+25% buff back in Saison 1/2 and got nerfed due to beeing overpowered (according to patchlogs). After that, only the stronger buff remained active when having both at the same time. Besides, the 52 (not 61) talent bug has nothing to do with this.

Something I was wondering is whether the Glyph of Execution will become inane after the release of the Patch and therefore the implementation of the 30 Rage cap executions. The only time I could think of the Glyph being any useful is when we have 20 Rage and would have a SD proc. If I am correct with my assumption, wouldn't it make the Blade storm Glyph more attractive?

All of your questions have been discussed in this thread multiple times but I can give you some advice. Stay with the Storm Edge. Your gemming and gear is OK. I don't know how much ArP you have without the GT Proc but if its more than 50% than gem into Strength until you hit 50% ArP. Also use the Spreadsheet and put your gear in and see how much DPS you should be pulling. From my experience I'd say 4500 - 4800 DPS should be possible with your set up.

Also, your rotation is a little bit flawed. I don't see any SD procs in there.

You are way over the Hit cap, you could swap some gear so get closer to the Cap as long as it would increase your DPS..this is were the Spreadsheet comes in handy.

Do you have any other Tier gear in your Bank or is that all you have?

The rage point -> damage conversion for extra rage still occurs with execute so I don't believe it really changes the effect of the glyph. It should be just as effective then as it is now.

I see, so just to make sure I understand you correctly; if I were to have 30 Rage and would hit a SD proc, it would actually hit as if it were a 40 Rage SD? It makes sense this way.

What is the best way to determine how long a fight should be before I start maintaining Sunder as the lone warrior (with no Rogues for Expose)?

This is for a 10-man group with a variable number of melee (some combination of 1xEnhance, 1xBlood DPS, 1xBlood Tank, 1xRet). On fights like Hodir that only last 3 minutes, I feel like I waste so much time up front stacking Sunder, but after that, it's not bad to maintain. The issue is, the fight lasts less than 3 minutes, so that's a fair number of GCDs up front. The second question I have is, is it better to just stack Sunder blindly at the pull, or to only replace Slams with it until it's at 5?

Based on our group makeup, I'm worried it might be better raid DPS for me to switch back to Fury so I can lose less DPS stacking/maintaining Sunder and provide Rampage.