Monk Simple Questions Thread: Mists Beta Edition - Page 5

Terraburn · 03/18/13, 12:21 PM

With Throne of Thunder, are trolls now the best race for dps? are weapons races (like orc) better based on the drops?

zuyx · 03/25/13, 1:45 PM

For Windwalker do you want slower weapons?

Crevan · 03/25/13, 4:32 PM

Originally Posted by zuyx

For Windwalker do you want slower weapons?

Weapon speed doesn't matter. Weapon dps is what's important.

khel · 03/25/13, 7:04 PM

What ilvl weapon would it take to replace a 517 ilvl Claws of Shek'zeer with a 500agi gem in it, as an offhand weapon? I'm expecting that 522ilvl won't be an upgrade, but am unsure if 528 is or not.

Littch · 04/06/13, 5:17 PM

Delete please, post above is same ><

Xenonz · 04/07/13, 11:29 AM

Looking at parses and SimC, WW monks are performing above par in comparison to other DPS specs, however at first glance there seems to be quite a shortage of WW monks in the top guilds, is there any specific reason for this? We have great mobility and actually bring some nice spells to the table in regards of soaking and taking chunks of damage. Hence my question, where is the love?

Crevan · 04/07/13, 6:26 PM

The most obvious answer is probably that there is not enough spots for more than 1 WW in the raid. Every other melee class (except for maybe death knights) brings something to the raid that we don't, while also performing at least as good as us. If you're doing difficult content, having 2 warriors and a monk is better than 1 warrior and 2 monks, simply because you get more raid cooldowns. There's also probably less skilled windwalkers than any other given class/spec, simply because we're relatively new here.

khel · 04/11/13, 6:44 AM

Does anyone know approximately how much our T15 set bonuses are worth? At any T15 Normal or higher gear level, this information would be valuable when deciding if we should break set bonuses for higher ilvl gear or not.

Crevan · 04/11/13, 8:36 PM

Due to the nature of our bonuses, they are as useful as you make them. With my gear and play style and if I pick every single one of them when I need energy, two-set gives approximately 3.5 spheres per minute for 35 energy (0.875 jabs, 0.98 BoKs, 0.105 TPs, 0.69 TEB stacks [0.76 with four-set]). This adds up to 23412.375 + 149423.736 + 5571.3 = 178407.411 damage per minute or 2973.5 dps disregarding the extra TEB stacks. This is about 1.85% of my theoretical Patchwerk dps.

Four-set gives an extra TEB stack every 32 seconds on average, so I assume it'd be 2 extra stacks per minute including the two-set gains. How useful this is will depend on your mastery levels and your TEB usage. I don't really have the time nor the desire to calculate it in more detail right now.

Your results may be different than mine, and as always - if in doubt, sim it.

Henkerxp · 04/17/13, 7:54 AM

Hi,

this is my first post on EJ after years of just reading it. I am playing a mainly Fistweaving Monk...this means at the current tier, i am in melee range of the boss in about 11/12 bosses focusing more on BoK/TP than Uplift for spending Chi (unless high raid damage). I can achieve singletarget dps of about 40k-60k while maintaining a high HPS. With this in mind i have one concern i would like to discuss here.

Personally, i kinda think that the healing legendary metagem does not really suit my playstyle at all in terms of fistweaving since i barely have any manaproblems if managed properly. I could see use of the proc to spam 3 quick jabs for getting chi or if low on mana jab tp jab. What i am thinking more about is, how viable would be the other legendary meta gems? The haste proc of the castermeta seems viable too, but it only procs on spelldamage which would mean it only procs of chiwave. More interesting would be the physicaldmgmeta which procs of styles like jab/BoK/Tp (correct me if i am wrong). So...two questions:

1: is the healermeta really good for fistweaving (with about no manaproblem) ?
2: Are other legendary metagems (more) viable for fistweaving ?

Spleener · 04/17/13, 9:16 AM

I'm 90% certain the proc from the melee meta doesn't eminence, and even if you could get the full RPPM proc rate out of the caster meta without casting CJL haste is pretty awful for fisting.

As long as you cast something that isn't Jab, TP, BoK, or CJL at least once every 10s (and you should be, since you want to be ReMing on cooldown) you'll get the full proc rate of the healer meta. If you have more mana than you know what to do with before the healer meta, you get the healer meta and do what you should always do when you have more mana than you know what to do with- reforge/regem away spirit until you're no longer overflowing on mana.

PapaBoss · 05/16/13, 1:26 AM

Spit balling mode engaged:
I have been sloshing around an idea in my mind for fistweaving. If we plan on using a fistweaving intensive healing rotation, could it be beneficial to use an agility weapon, this for example, due to almost double the damage of a comparable weapon with intellect/spirit. Ideally, there would be no hit/expertise and no mastery as those are poor stats. But I believe mastery may be an exception because no current ilvl weapons don't have hit/expertise and no mastery.

Again, just spit balling (literally no math behind this) and would like some input or why this would/would not work.

Spleener · 05/16/13, 10:52 AM

I haven't bothered examining the details of how it works now, but there was a hotfix shortly after 5.2 launched to make it so that agi weapons didn't give mistweavers a significant damage increase over caster weapons.