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Forum: Paladins 10/20/10, 9:32 PM
Replies: 185
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Posted By jere
I tested holy light, WoG, LoH, and the heal from...

I tested holy light, WoG, LoH, and the heal from SoI and all of those are 25% modifiers. I find it odd that the SoI heal generates threat but the mana return doesn't.

Another oddity is that mana...
Forum: Paladins 10/20/10, 5:43 PM
Replies: 185
Views: 667,827
Posted By jere
Wrathblood, it may be worth mentioning on WoG...

Wrathblood, it may be worth mentioning on WoG that I was testing threat values for it on live last night and found the following data points:

1. All heals, including WoG, still follow the 25%...
Forum: Warriors 02/19/10, 3:25 PM
Replies: 921
Views: 688,789
Posted By jere
I tested this on my warrior and druid back in 3.1...

I tested this on my warrior and druid back in 3.1 or 3.2 and fixates, such as Challenging Roar/Mocking Blow/Challenging Shout do affect DR. I haven't tested since 3.3, but that is mainly due to the...
Forum: Warriors 02/04/10, 8:32 AM
Replies: 921
Views: 688,789
Posted By jere
As a note, there was a discussion over at...

As a note, there was a discussion over at Tankspot about that value and some were reporting that the 315 is now 345. Satrina updated his warrior threat values thread if you are interested in...
Forum: Paladins 12/15/09, 1:22 PM
Replies: 1,873
Views: 4,151,874
Posted By jere
As a note, it isn't the ratio of rating to...

As a note, it isn't the ratio of rating to rating. It's % to %. The correct ratio is:

(charsheet_dodge% - 10) VS 1.875*(charsheet_parry% - 10)

Remember that those values include...
Forum: Paladins 12/03/09, 2:32 PM
Replies: 1,873
Views: 4,151,874
Posted By jere
If mana is an issue, the first thing I do is...

If mana is an issue, the first thing I do is throttle my consecration. It does produce a lot of TPS, but it is kind of annoying in the TPM area.

This isn't an addon, but Theck did a breakdown of...
Forum: Paladins 11/28/09, 12:14 AM
Replies: 1,873
Views: 4,151,874
Posted By jere
I checked Holy Wrath tonight. The stun does not...

I checked Holy Wrath tonight. The stun does not generate threat.

1612 damage => 4149.29 threat (1612 * 1.8 * 1.43)
1614 damage => 4154.44 threat (1614 * 1.8 * 1.43)

No left over threat for the...
Forum: Paladins 11/25/09, 11:09 AM
Replies: 1,873
Views: 4,151,874
Posted By jere
Both the hammer of justice stun and the interrupt...

Both the hammer of justice stun and the interrupt have separate threat components (the stun being holy and the interrupt being non-holy oddly enough). So I would imagine Holy Wrath's would too. ...
Forum: Paladins 11/23/09, 1:17 PM
Replies: 1,873
Views: 4,151,874
Posted By jere
I haven't specifically tested 6% on an 82 mob,...

I haven't specifically tested 6% on an 82 mob, but I see no reason why it would be different. They would have to have coded a specific set of value just for one type of ability. Still worth testing...
Forum: Paladins 11/23/09, 8:27 AM
Replies: 1,873
Views: 4,151,874
Posted By jere
Actually, taunt scales with spell hit. In BC...

Actually, taunt scales with spell hit. In BC they added melee hit to also increase it, but that is when the two stats were separate. Now that they are merged, it scales with respect to the spell...
Forum: Paladins 11/05/09, 7:17 PM
Replies: 1,873
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Posted By jere
It's definitely better than their first proposed...

It's definitely better than their first proposed solution, but I still don't care for it much. DP is a pretty important cooldown. Even casting LoH on yourself will lock you out of using it for...
Forum: Paladins 09/23/09, 3:23 PM
Replies: 1,873
Views: 4,151,874
Posted By jere
The other tank classes also have the baked in...

The other tank classes also have the baked in salv, which was multiplicative with their stances. That's the standard for righteous fury, bear form, defensive stance, and frost presence.
Forum: Paladins 07/18/09, 9:29 AM
Replies: 571
Views: 336,394
Posted By jere
Well there is the possibility that that note...

Well there is the possibility that that note meant the DoT application could be dodged/parried. Have you seen DoT ticks dodged/parried yet? I will try to test it some on the PTR today.

EDIT, in...
Forum: Paladins 07/12/09, 3:59 PM
Replies: 571
Views: 336,394
Posted By jere
2400 BV total, whether it comes from STR, shield,...

2400 BV total, whether it comes from STR, shield, etc.
Forum: Paladins 07/11/09, 1:26 PM
Replies: 571
Views: 336,394
Posted By jere
Here is some data I gathered on ShoR on the...

Here is some data I gathered on ShoR on the PTR:


Damage
BV MIN MAX
---------------------------
2400 2920 2920
2413 ...
Forum: Paladins 07/07/09, 11:53 PM
Replies: 571
Views: 336,394
Posted By jere
Well it says AD scales with our defense rating. ...

Well it says AD scales with our defense rating. Doesn't US only affect defense skill? I know it sounds like semantics, but if AD is scaled on the rating portion, that won't change with US if I...
Forum: Paladins 07/01/09, 11:38 PM
Replies: 571
Views: 336,394
Posted By jere
Do you think the tooltip is incorrect? I know it...

Do you think the tooltip is incorrect? I know it says 574 on the tooltip at level 80, but I don't know a good way about verifying that offhand.
Forum: Paladins 06/29/09, 8:51 AM
Replies: 897
Views: 346,019
Posted By jere
Just remember that not every protection paladin...

Just remember that not every protection paladin runs a 0/53/18 or similar. Some do put all their extra points in holy (for LoH and AM) or fill up the prot tree more. Not everyone specs the optimal...
Forum: Paladins 06/27/09, 8:51 PM
Replies: 571
Views: 336,394
Posted By jere
As a note, this really isn't as much the case now...

As a note, this really isn't as much the case now that ulduar is out. In my boss tanking gear, I am definitely under the 102.4% by 5-10% depending on which gear I am using. The push to max out...
Forum: Paladins 06/27/09, 2:08 PM
Replies: 571
Views: 336,394
Posted By jere
Just some general PTR testing so far: Shield of...

Just some general PTR testing so far:

Shield of Righteousness: There is no extra threat on it. It does threat=damage*1.9*1.43, the same as all other holy abilities. So this is a tooltip error,...
Forum: Paladins 06/16/09, 7:06 PM
Replies: 1,873
Views: 4,151,874
Posted By jere
I actually had a similar wild hair, but I...

I actually had a similar wild hair, but I approached it differently. I took the derivatives of the dodge and parry DR equations, which gives you the instantaneous slope values of each based on your...
Forum: Paladins 05/12/09, 8:36 AM
Replies: 1,873
Views: 4,151,874
Posted By jere
As Prinsesa stated, they have different DR...

As Prinsesa stated, they have different DR curves. Check this thread out for more details:
http://elitistjerks.com/f31/t29453-combat_ratings_level_80_a/
Forum: Paladins 04/17/09, 7:50 AM
Replies: 1,873
Views: 4,151,874
Posted By jere
They actually never said they would do that. ...

They actually never said they would do that. That was a rumor that came from a mistyped page on the wotlkwiki.info site back when Beta was starting. The only blue posts related to the topic said...
Forum: Paladins 04/08/09, 2:09 PM
Replies: 1,873
Views: 4,151,874
Posted By jere
In your food section, you list two STR foods. ...

In your food section, you list two STR foods. One of them is for Pets (the treats one).
Forum: Paladins 04/07/09, 8:11 AM
Replies: 1,873
Views: 4,151,874
Posted By jere
Specifically, it would be a 14.48% increase.

Specifically, it would be a 14.48% increase.
Forum: Paladins 03/30/09, 9:23 AM
Replies: 1,873
Views: 4,151,874
Posted By jere
I think it is because most all of us have some...

I think it is because most all of us have some form of inherent desire to put "efficiency" into our talent specs. I mean if we really really wanted to go for survivability like that, we would forego...
Forum: Paladins 03/28/09, 12:51 PM
Replies: 1,873
Views: 4,151,874
Posted By jere
Yep. I did some testing (I think I even posted...

Yep. I did some testing (I think I even posted my findings in this thread somewhere) and Holy Shield used to not get the 30% increase for the AP coefficient, while both the base and the SP...
Forum: Paladins 03/20/09, 1:19 PM
Replies: 1,873
Views: 4,151,874
Posted By jere
One other thing to consider is the other end of...

One other thing to consider is the other end of the spectrum. I know we typically target full on progression raiding, but the impacts to doing our normal 5mans and heroics, which most of us all...
Forum: Paladins 03/20/09, 8:36 AM
Replies: 1,873
Views: 4,151,874
Posted By jere
Just some quick corrections: I think some of...

Just some quick corrections:



I think some of your numbers are off. Remember in 3.1, we are losing the talent that reduces ShoR and HS mana costs by 30%. Also, once you have the mana costs,...
Forum: Paladins 03/18/09, 10:57 PM
Replies: 1,873
Views: 4,151,874
Posted By jere
It looks like they fixed the AP coefficient for...

It looks like they fixed the AP coefficient for Holy Shield in this build finally.
Forum: Paladins 03/18/09, 8:12 AM
Replies: 1,873
Views: 4,151,874
Posted By jere
As a note, if you aren't hit capped, then...

As a note, if you aren't hit capped, then skipping a judgement might still be risky, regardless of the debuff durations.
Forum: Paladins 03/17/09, 3:00 PM
Replies: 1,873
Views: 4,151,874
Posted By jere
Perhaps buffs that aren't completely permanent...

Perhaps buffs that aren't completely permanent (like Avenging Wrath, for example, or trinkets) were up at the times the crit happened and not when the hits happened. Could be number of things up and...
Forum: Paladins 03/16/09, 3:38 PM
Replies: 1,873
Views: 4,151,874
Posted By jere
Are you sure about that? I was pretty sure...

Are you sure about that? I was pretty sure exorcism was doing 1.5x damage on crits currently.
Forum: Paladins 03/16/09, 9:14 AM
Replies: 1,873
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Posted By jere
Take a look at this thread: Maintankadin :: View...

Take a look at this thread:
Maintankadin :: View topic - Theck's MATLAB TPS analysis (A Jonesy derivative work) (http://maintankadin.failsafedesign.com/viewtopic.php?t=20823)

If it hasn't been done...
Forum: Paladins 03/10/09, 3:20 PM
Replies: 1,873
Views: 4,151,874
Posted By jere
Well, that isn't how it has progressed. That is...

Well, that isn't how it has progressed. That is just a compilation of various responses to the topic, which weren't necessarily linearly derived from each other.

I personally think expertise is...
Forum: Paladins 03/07/09, 2:37 PM
Replies: 1,873
Views: 4,151,874
Posted By jere
You really wouldn't need 5 points in reckoning. ...

You really wouldn't need 5 points in reckoning. Putting 2 or 3 points would do sufficiently and going for a 0/53/18 can make getting 2/5 reckoning not too difficult if you really want it.
Forum: Paladins 03/07/09, 12:35 PM
Replies: 1,873
Views: 4,151,874
Posted By jere
Alent and I played around with the new Divine...

Alent and I played around with the new Divine Sacrifice talent on the PTR.

1. Lasts 8 seconds
2. It appears that even though it absorbs 30% of the damage from your party, you only end up taking...
Forum: Paladins 02/24/09, 10:00 AM
Replies: 1,873
Views: 4,151,874
Posted By jere
None of them stack in the sense that you get...

None of them stack in the sense that you get benefit from more than one. If I have vigilance on me, I can no longer put BoSanc on me directly. It's really annoying when my warrior partner puts it...
Forum: Paladins 02/24/09, 9:48 AM
Replies: 1,873
Views: 4,151,874
Posted By jere
Yes, there is one ShoR that doesn't get the...

Yes, there is one ShoR that doesn't get the benefit of the LoO. Can you further explain why that matters. The issue back 2 pages ago (I believe) was comparing a rotation where you follow judgement...
Forum: Paladins 02/19/09, 2:37 PM
Replies: 1,873
Views: 4,151,874
Posted By jere
I know recount at one point had a bug where it...

I know recount at one point had a bug where it was calling some things crits that were not. I don't know if it ever was fixed.
Forum: Paladins 02/08/09, 11:19 AM
Replies: 1,873
Views: 4,151,874
Posted By jere
Well, it isn't 100% perfect, but the key upgrade...

Well, it isn't 100% perfect, but the key upgrade there is that, casters won't start casting immediately when you pull and will run for those 3 seconds. That will speed up the LoS pulls because if...
Forum: Paladins 02/06/09, 12:36 PM
Replies: 1,873
Views: 4,151,874
Posted By jere
Remember, these are not all the changes, just a...

Remember, these are not all the changes, just a preview. They might have changed HW to work like exorcism too, just didn't put it in the preview.
Forum: Paladins 01/29/09, 2:37 PM
Replies: 1,873
Views: 4,151,874
Posted By jere
I think he is referring to the double ShoR that...

I think he is referring to the double ShoR that was fixed recently.
Forum: Paladins 01/28/09, 12:47 AM
Replies: 1,873
Views: 4,151,874
Posted By jere
The odd thing is that the old potency enchant +20...

The odd thing is that the old potency enchant +20 STR is better dps for us than the AP versions. 20 STR gives the same amount of DPS as 75-80 AP would based on how our abilities scale and using our...
Forum: Paladins 01/27/09, 12:14 PM
Replies: 1,873
Views: 4,151,874
Posted By jere
The base 5% isn't affected by DR and that is a DR...

The base 5% isn't affected by DR and that is a DR equation. You add in the 5% later.
Forum: Paladins 01/26/09, 9:11 AM
Replies: 1,873
Views: 4,151,874
Posted By jere
Perhaps the better way to put it is that it is...

Perhaps the better way to put it is that it is working as it always has. The original BV meta from BC worked the same way. Whether it is intended or not has never been clarified by blizzard to my...
Forum: Paladins 01/23/09, 3:17 PM
Replies: 1,873
Views: 4,151,874
Posted By jere
It rarely ever changes from monster to monster. ...

It rarely ever changes from monster to monster. The only exceptions can easily be counted on your hand (trash in Magheridon's Lair for example). In general:

Equal Level Mob = 100.0%
+1 Level Mob =...
Forum: Paladins 01/22/09, 6:46 PM
Replies: 1,873
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Posted By jere
As long as you don't have to turn your back, get...

As long as you don't have to turn your back, get stunned, feared, etc. You still can get crit in those situations
Forum: Paladins 01/14/09, 11:00 AM
Replies: 1,873
Views: 4,151,874
Posted By jere
For some reason I was under the impression that...

For some reason I was under the impression that was removed in WotLK. I need to see if I can find that or if I am just on crack.
Forum: Paladins 01/13/09, 8:14 AM
Replies: 1,873
Views: 4,151,874
Posted By jere
I don't think it was ever established that it...

I don't think it was ever established that it worked only off of melee hit or that it was changed from 17% to 9%. I think the change was simply to allow melee hit rating to also count towards the...
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