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Forum: Druids 11/28/09, 8:46 PM
Replies: 857
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Posted By Tappin
I like power auras classic. You can do 'or'...

I like power auras classic. You can do 'or' conditions like Mangle/Trauma
which will give you a timer for anyone's Mangle (Cat) or Mangle (Bear) or Trauma

Similarly Demoralizing/Vindication/Curse of...
Forum: Druids 04/15/09, 11:49 PM
Replies: 1,356
Views: 950,689
Posted By Tappin
Power auras classic works well. Again it takes...

Power auras classic works well. Again it takes some time to learn / setup / fool around with.

Edit: sp.
Forum: Druids 10/13/08, 9:53 PM
Replies: 3,759
Views: 757,933
Posted By Tappin
Edit: posted regarding raid dps cycles before I...

Edit: posted regarding raid dps cycles before I realized you were talking about soloing dps cycles.

Even a stealth, cat charge, pounce, rake, mangle, shred, fb cycle isn't hard for soloing.

It...
Forum: Druids 10/12/08, 5:39 PM
Replies: 3,759
Views: 757,933
Posted By Tappin
I'm not a fan of one-button macros, decursive,...

I'm not a fan of one-button macros, decursive, etc. But, our dps cycle has gotten crazy enough that I've been messing with addons to help me make decisions. We just have so many things to watch at...
Forum: Druids 10/10/08, 1:34 PM
Replies: 3,759
Views: 757,933
Posted By Tappin
I would like to see all the math too, (at work,...

I would like to see all the math too, (at work, so I can't work on it right now) but based on the excellent new multipliers for a mangle'd bleeding maul, I'd guess max single target threat with...
Forum: Druids 10/04/08, 2:01 PM
Replies: 3,759
Views: 757,933
Posted By Tappin
I don't see why you would put 71 into feral...

I don't see why you would put 71 into feral unless you absolutely never cat dps'd. I don't know any raiding ferals who spend 100% of their time in bear form. You're giving up a lot of dps skipping...
Forum: Druids 10/03/08, 10:00 PM
Replies: 3,759
Views: 757,933
Posted By Tappin
People are taking 2/2 MotW because furor is so...

People are taking 2/2 MotW because furor is so bad outside of pvp. At the very least, you can afford to go 4/5 furor. Remember that if you shift to cat with 80 energy and wait for a GCD, you'll...
Forum: Druids 10/03/08, 12:25 PM
Replies: 3,759
Views: 757,933
Posted By Tappin
@nightcrowler's post: This backs up what I've...

@nightcrowler's post:

This backs up what I've been saying regarding the talent 'split'. So many druids (mostly at the 'official' forums) have been crying about destroying druids by forcing us to...
Forum: Druids 10/02/08, 8:24 PM
Replies: 3,759
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Posted By Tappin
Nobody else really loves high armor on necks, or...

Nobody else really loves high armor on necks, or trinkets. They would rather have more sta, defense, dodge/parry or even str. How often do you see other tanks wearing badge of tenacity?

The more...
Forum: Druids 09/30/08, 11:19 PM
Replies: 3,759
Views: 757,933
Posted By Tappin
So with a rotation including rips and rakes, ArP...

So with a rotation including rips and rakes, ArP and crit are not as good for us as other classes. Our low white hit damage means we scale worse with hit and haste and expertise. Who would share...
Forum: Druids 09/28/08, 11:20 AM
Replies: 3,759
Views: 757,933
Posted By Tappin
Our AE ability is different from the other tanks'...

Our AE ability is different from the other tanks' abilities in 2 very important ways.
1) Swipe has no internal cooldown.
2) Swipe generates the same resource it uses. With enough targets, it's...
Forum: Druids 09/28/08, 10:52 AM
Replies: 3,759
Views: 757,933
Posted By Tappin
Our bear damage was 'balanced' in TBC at a time...

Our bear damage was 'balanced' in TBC at a time when almost nobody was raiding and people were mainly doing 5 mans normals and heroics. They have and will continue to balance us around imbalances...
Forum: Druids 09/28/08, 10:27 AM
Replies: 3,759
Views: 757,933
Posted By Tappin
It's a huge mistake, and I hope someone will post...

It's a huge mistake, and I hope someone will post that on the beta forums. I'm fairly certain this will lead to problems and unwanted nerfs like:
a) A primal fury nerf due to nearly limitless rage...
Forum: Druids 09/22/08, 11:53 AM
Replies: 3,759
Views: 757,933
Posted By Tappin
Not really, for the same reason consecreate or...

Not really, for the same reason consecreate or thunderclap aren't the only thing tanks use in WotLK. They do a lot of total threat, but little to each mob. It's just important to get a little...
Forum: Druids 09/22/08, 11:33 AM
Replies: 3,759
Views: 757,933
Posted By Tappin
Mijae would have more accurate numbers, but those...

Mijae would have more accurate numbers, but those are based on RnT being 10% damage and PI being 5 talent points. But, I'd guess it's a lot closer to

Savage Fury: 341.35 (170.68)
LotP: 99.9
Primal...
Forum: Druids 09/22/08, 11:17 AM
Replies: 3,759
Views: 757,933
Posted By Tappin
I'd prefer to get AE threat in a way that doesn't...

I'd prefer to get AE threat in a way that doesn't do a lot more damage. I want to hold threat and take a beating as a bear. Damage is a perk. I'd rather not get another 'bear damage is too high,...
Forum: Druids 09/21/08, 2:14 PM
Replies: 3,759
Views: 757,933
Posted By Tappin
For your dps build, skipping fury is probably a...

For your dps build, skipping fury is probably a mistake. Free combos is a huge part of dps and important for getting more value out of savage roar. It's definitely more dps than improved mangle. ...
Forum: Druids 09/21/08, 1:37 PM
Replies: 3,759
Views: 757,933
Posted By Tappin
There are worse problems to have than having too...

There are worse problems to have than having too many skilled tanks log in that can all handle the night's raid.

Most tanks I know are unusually devoted to the game, to the point that at least one...
Forum: Druids 09/21/08, 1:24 PM
Replies: 3,759
Views: 757,933
Posted By Tappin
That's true. But what if the answer is: "All of...

That's true. But what if the answer is: "All of the tanks hold threat and are easy to keep alive on this fight. A {insert class name here} would be a little better because of {some...
Forum: Druids 09/21/08, 12:43 PM
Replies: 3,759
Views: 757,933
Posted By Tappin
I think they're regretting the niche comments. ...

I think they're regretting the niche comments. In order to be viable MT on any boss, you can't be all that specialized. Everyone needs to be able to take the same hits without being a drain to...
Forum: Druids 09/21/08, 10:35 AM
Replies: 3,759
Views: 757,933
Posted By Tappin
I believe the armor cap is armor only. So, we do...

I believe the armor cap is armor only. So, we do have some more room than we had in TBC. I believe we can get all the way to 22% mitigation ((1-.75) x (1 - .12)). Ignoring avoidance and spell...
Forum: Druids 09/20/08, 2:31 PM
Replies: 3,759
Views: 757,933
Posted By Tappin
Ya, I hadn't heard a lot of reports of endless...

Ya, I hadn't heard a lot of reports of endless rage until now. In the past, at least on non-bosses, the rage saved on swipe, mangle and maul alone made ferocity the clear winner. On a mangle,...
Forum: Druids 09/20/08, 2:18 PM
Replies: 3,759
Views: 757,933
Posted By Tappin
The question isn't just whether or not FB will be...

The question isn't just whether or not FB will be better dps than rip rotations. It's 'is the increase in dps I see going speccing for FB worth more than spending those talents elsewhere?' For most,...
Forum: Druids 09/20/08, 11:14 AM
Replies: 3,759
Views: 757,933
Posted By Tappin
Unless you're dodged capped, precision is a dps...

Unless you're dodged capped, precision is a dps talent. While we'll be able to cap the dodge portion of expertise, I believe it will be well into naxx (or even after) before we do. And the energy...
Forum: Druids 09/19/08, 10:54 PM
Replies: 3,759
Views: 757,933
Posted By Tappin
* Mangle doesn't increase the damage of Maul and...

* Mangle doesn't increase the damage of Maul and Shred anymore
- I think this is incorrect? It looks like they just moved the effect to mangle and shred so it works with mangle OR trauma.

Rend and...
Forum: Druids 09/19/08, 7:38 PM
Replies: 3,759
Views: 757,933
Posted By Tappin
I'm not convinced we'll need AE threat. I've...

I'm not convinced we'll need AE threat. I've been fine with swipe without an AE, and now swipe is considerably better. More classes have AE abilities, but maybe they'll have to wait 2 seconds...
Forum: Druids 09/12/08, 9:55 AM
Replies: 3,759
Views: 757,933
Posted By Tappin
That looks like kind of a hybrid build rather...

That looks like kind of a hybrid build rather than pure dps. For pure dps, you could drop thick hide, instincts and infected wounds?

You're right about savage fury and imp mangle for dps. They...
Forum: Druids 09/12/08, 1:24 AM
Replies: 3,759
Views: 757,933
Posted By Tappin
Here's something else that has been bothering...

Here's something else that has been bothering me:

Armor - Items - World of Warcraft (http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?items=4&filter=cr=131:41:42;crs=1:3:1;crv=0:0:0)

We're supposed to share gear. I...
Forum: Druids 09/11/08, 10:04 AM
Replies: 3,759
Views: 757,933
Posted By Tappin
Well, let's include ones that are much better for...

Well, let's include ones that are much better for one than the other for a pve raiding build.
*Feral instinct (* bear if you don't consider sneaking important to pve raiding)
Thick hide (bear)
**...
Forum: Druids 09/08/08, 9:57 AM
Replies: 3,759
Views: 757,933
Posted By Tappin
Whether or not we need int, it's clear the int...

Whether or not we need int, it's clear the int portion of HotW currently makes no sense. It might as well read 'increases your base int'. It should instead provide some mana or better yet, mana...
Forum: Druids 09/07/08, 8:03 PM
Replies: 3,759
Views: 757,933
Posted By Tappin
Thanks for the work! Assuming your numbers are...

Thanks for the work! Assuming your numbers are correct, ordering those for threat gained per talent point

Savage Fury: 341.35 (170.68)
LotP: 99.9
Primal Precision: 167.65 (83.83)
Predatory Strikes:...
Forum: Druids 09/07/08, 7:48 PM
Replies: 3,759
Views: 757,933
Posted By Tappin
I was thinking the opposite. That mangle, being...

I was thinking the opposite. That mangle, being a better effect (as iLotp would be) would overwrte trauma.
Forum: Druids 09/07/08, 7:37 PM
Replies: 3,759
Views: 757,933
Posted By Tappin
If it doesn't overwrite, I'm sure it will soon. ...

If it doesn't overwrite, I'm sure it will soon. Part of the reason that's they're consolidated and non-stacking a lot of previously stackable debuffs is to make room. Adding more debuff slots to...
Forum: Druids 09/07/08, 4:41 PM
Replies: 3,759
Views: 757,933
Posted By Tappin
It's somewhere less than 4%. We also gain threat...

It's somewhere less than 4%. We also gain threat from other things like the static modifier to lacerate and maul and rage gains. Similarly, it's less than 4% damage in cat form, because not all of...
Forum: Druids 09/07/08, 3:58 PM
Replies: 3,759
Views: 757,933
Posted By Tappin
Edit: sorry, you've skipped shredding, not savage...

Edit: sorry, you've skipped shredding, not savage fury. My fault.
Forum: Druids 09/07/08, 3:24 PM
Replies: 3,759
Views: 757,933
Posted By Tappin
Edit: posted didn't give up savage fury, he gave...

Edit: posted didn't give up savage fury, he gave up shredding attacks. My fault.

I don't understand the 5 points in rend and tear for the tanking build. If it's for the maul threat, you get 10%...
Forum: Druids 09/07/08, 2:56 PM
Replies: 3,759
Views: 757,933
Posted By Tappin
I understand this and accounted for it. The WWS...

I understand this and accounted for it. The WWS reports I looked at I showed the raw heal numbers, then compared raw ILotP heals to that. That's where I got the 1.5-3% per feral. Then I looked up...
Forum: Druids 09/07/08, 2:20 PM
Replies: 3,759
Views: 757,933
Posted By Tappin
Seems like a pretty good build. As much as I'd...

Seems like a pretty good build. As much as I'd like to pick up master shapeshifter, I agree with your choice of not picking it up.

The choice to leave out savage fury is interesting. It's only an...
Forum: Druids 09/07/08, 2:12 PM
Replies: 3,759
Views: 757,933
Posted By Tappin
I've looked at WWS for about 6 2-4 hour...

I've looked at WWS for about 6 2-4 hour sunwell/bt raids now. I've found LotP doing about 1.5% - 3% of total healing per feral. But looking at each person, I also found this to be consistently...
Forum: Druids 09/07/08, 10:50 AM
Replies: 3,759
Views: 757,933
Posted By Tappin
Even from an item budget, you kind of have to...

Even from an item budget, you kind of have to look at the bigger picture.

Look at the naxx gear. Stats that are entirely worthless for survivability:
Warrior: Hit
Druid: AP, Crit, Haste, Ignore...
Forum: Druids 09/07/08, 10:21 AM
Replies: 3,759
Views: 757,933
Posted By Tappin
Regardless of the answer, I see a problem with...

Regardless of the answer, I see a problem with the question. Stamina can only compensate for gear scaling if you're concerned about 'how long can I live without any heals?' The more important...
Forum: Druids 09/07/08, 9:56 AM
Replies: 3,759
Views: 757,933
Posted By Tappin
Confirmed. With the new furor, powershifting is...

Confirmed. With the new furor, powershifting is dead.

With furor, ignoring energy gained because of latency:
If you're in cat form with 0 energy and shift to cat form, you'll have 0 energy.
If...
Forum: Druids 09/06/08, 6:57 PM
Replies: 3,759
Views: 757,933
Posted By Tappin
I don't argue that if you end up dodge-capped,...

I don't argue that if you end up dodge-capped, you should drop the talent. Based on our armor, it looks like it will be easy to drop at least one of those points once we get our first set of gear...
Forum: Druids 09/06/08, 6:38 PM
Replies: 3,759
Views: 757,933
Posted By Tappin
I have to wonder what you're considering...

I have to wonder what you're considering necessary bear talents. Every spec has some talents people would like, but can't grab. They're not bad, they're just 'not as good'.


WorldofWarcraft.com ->...
Forum: Druids 09/06/08, 2:45 PM
Replies: 3,759
Views: 757,933
Posted By Tappin
I would only agree with this if there were other...

I would only agree with this if there were other 2 point talents nearly as valuable for you to pick up. Take your planned WotLK build including precision. Now pretend you're expertise capped. How...
Forum: Druids 09/06/08, 1:14 PM
Replies: 3,759
Views: 757,933
Posted By Tappin
This forgets travel time, where you would be...

This forgets travel time, where you would be regenerating energy.

For pvp it's great: Cyclone, root, lifebloom, cyclone again, cat (+100 energy minus any travel time). Cat, focused so bear (+10...
Forum: Druids 09/05/08, 8:34 PM
Replies: 3,759
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Posted By Tappin
Unless what you care about is 'how big of a...

Unless what you care about is 'how big of a number will I see?' or 'what's the most burst can I do 10 seconds after I get 5 combo points?', the damage is not the right question. Damage per energy...
Forum: Druids 09/01/08, 4:35 PM
Replies: 3,759
Views: 757,933
Posted By Tappin
A good analysis. The last part is what I think...

A good analysis. The last part is what I think most of us are worried about. We won't be squishy at 70 and might tank ok at 80. But by the time we're in full level 80 epics, the lower armor and...
Forum: Druids 08/31/08, 6:40 PM
Replies: 3,759
Views: 757,933
Posted By Tappin
Warriors needed 30 agi to dodge at 70. Druids...

Warriors needed 30 agi to dodge at 70. Druids needed 14.7 agi to dodge at 70. At 80, it appears both need 40 agi per dodge. Warriors need 33% more agi to dodge 70 to 80. Druids need 172% more. ...
Forum: Druids 08/29/08, 9:21 PM
Replies: 3,759
Views: 757,933
Posted By Tappin
I like the talents. I think my problem with them...

I like the talents. I think my problem with them is that they don't address how we scale in gear that is not well suited to bears. There's nothing in these talents that make me want to wear WotLK...
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