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Forum: Death Knights 10/06/11, 10:46 PM
Replies: 724
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Posted By Promethia
It is a little complicated to figure out your...

It is a little complicated to figure out your pre-avoidance damage from logs. A picture might help explain one relatively simple way to do that. If you look at your "Damage by spell" in a World of...
Forum: Death Knights 10/03/11, 9:10 PM
Replies: 724
Views: 1,145,905
Posted By Promethia
One approach to dealing with the uncertainty of...

One approach to dealing with the uncertainty of parameters like these is to plug in values that are on the extreme boundaries of realism. You can then feel confident that "realistic" scenarios lie...
Forum: Death Knights 09/30/11, 5:49 PM
Replies: 724
Views: 1,145,905
Posted By Promethia
Accidental double post. Delete.

Accidental double post. Delete.
Forum: Death Knights 09/30/11, 5:19 PM
Replies: 724
Views: 1,145,905
Posted By Promethia
Yes, his models are very similar. In fact, I had...

Yes, his models are very similar. In fact, I had Theck look over my math for any errors because of that. He couldn't find any and independently derived the same core equations.

Blood's mastery...
Forum: Death Knights 09/30/11, 12:09 AM
Replies: 724
Views: 1,145,905
Posted By Promethia
I realize a mathematical discussion of the...

I realize a mathematical discussion of the relative value of avoidance versus mastery has little relevance to more recent concerns about EH and spike damage. However, back in February, I wrote up...
Forum: Priests 08/08/09, 7:58 PM
Replies: 566
Views: 815,143
Posted By Promethia
It is kind of interesting to see how the...

It is kind of interesting to see how the conversation about greater heal use has evolved over the past several months.

I usually find myself MT healing, and I prefer to be the primary or sole MT...
Forum: Priests 08/06/09, 1:26 AM
Replies: 1,039
Views: 926,678
Posted By Promethia
The way I look at it is that casting PWS a lot...

The way I look at it is that casting PWS a lot reduces the value of crit and haste to you.

Especially on MT healing as disc, you may not cast that many PWS's. Crit is also important to keep...
Forum: Priests 06/14/09, 6:36 AM
Replies: 1,039
Views: 926,678
Posted By Promethia
One of the reasons that healing done is very poor...

One of the reasons that healing done is very poor performance metric is that healing is limited by damage taken, not by how quickly you can heal. So if you take two identical priests and both have...
Forum: Priests 06/12/09, 6:18 AM
Replies: 566
Views: 815,143
Posted By Promethia
More on useful longevity metrics

I have been working through some possible measures for longevity, and I think it is possible to come up with a rough estimate for healing longevity (the time before you go out of mana), as long as we...
Forum: Priests 06/11/09, 7:14 AM
Replies: 566
Views: 815,143
Posted By Promethia
I appreciate what you're doing with the...

I appreciate what you're doing with the spreadsheet, which I think is useful. However, I really do not like the 60/40 split, which is totally and completely arbitrary. It was used as an example but...
Forum: Priests 06/07/09, 6:49 AM
Replies: 566
Views: 815,143
Posted By Promethia
Apologies for misunderstanding, and yeah, the...

Apologies for misunderstanding, and yeah, the different you mention will give you a kind of HPS range within which you operate.

I am not sure putting a number on peak hps longevity is all that much...
Forum: Priests 06/07/09, 6:13 AM
Replies: 1,039
Views: 926,678
Posted By Promethia
Yes, exactly. There isn't a set of stats which...

Yes, exactly. There isn't a set of stats which is optimal at everything we might need to do. "Optimal for healing" is just an ill-defined concept because (despite what some may think) "healing" is...
Forum: Priests 06/04/09, 9:33 PM
Replies: 566
Views: 815,143
Posted By Promethia
There are some good thoughts there, including one...

There are some good thoughts there, including one potential use for knowing the HPS you can sustain indefinitely. You could potentially add this up across healers, and if it is enough to cover the...
Forum: Priests 06/01/09, 5:29 AM
Replies: 1,039
Views: 926,678
Posted By Promethia
I'm mostly trying to avoid this whole discussion,...

I'm mostly trying to avoid this whole discussion, but just as a mathematical point, R(h,t) probably would not drop off immediately as the formula you have implies. A Gaussian-like function might...
Forum: Priests 06/01/09, 1:03 AM
Replies: 566
Views: 815,143
Posted By Promethia
Ideally I want metrics that make no assumptions...

Ideally I want metrics that make no assumptions about what the healer might be asked to do, including assumptions about how much healing needs to be done or how long a fight lasts. In other words,...
Forum: Priests 05/30/09, 8:50 PM
Replies: 566
Views: 815,143
Posted By Promethia
Knowing you, I thought you might bring this up,...

Knowing you, I thought you might bring this up, because it is a good point. :) Changing your heal per mana will affect your mana by decreasing the rate at which you spend out your mana. This would...
Forum: Priests 05/28/09, 10:37 PM
Replies: 566
Views: 815,143
Posted By Promethia
I am not so sure sustained hps and peak hps work...

I am not so sure sustained hps and peak hps work any better than longevity and throughput. Peak hps is ok, although it is similar to throughput. However, I do not see how sustained hps addresses a...
Forum: Priests 05/22/09, 7:56 PM
Replies: 1,039
Views: 926,678
Posted By Promethia
I don't think we really disagree there. I prefer...

I don't think we really disagree there. I prefer going with fewer healers when possible since it makes healing more challenging and interesting, although sometimes raid leaders are pretty wary about...
Forum: Priests 05/21/09, 11:21 PM
Replies: 566
Views: 815,143
Posted By Promethia
Hmm... I agree with this general approach to the...

Hmm... I agree with this general approach to the problem and actually posted on this earlier (check out this post...
Forum: Priests 05/21/09, 8:36 PM
Replies: 1,039
Views: 926,678
Posted By Promethia
I understand what you are saying, but I am...

I understand what you are saying, but I am skeptical about the correlation between healing and deaths prevented being "usually" anything. There is very little data supporting a linear or near-linear...
Forum: Priests 05/20/09, 7:38 PM
Replies: 566
Views: 815,143
Posted By Promethia
It depends what you mean by "valid", but the...

It depends what you mean by "valid", but the short answer is yes. There have not been any huge changes. All "boiled down" stat weights make several assumptions which are pretty much guaranteed to...
Forum: Priests 05/20/09, 6:56 PM
Replies: 1,039
Views: 926,678
Posted By Promethia
As far as I can tell, no one is saying it is ok...

As far as I can tell, no one is saying it is ok to waste mana and run oom at 60% or at any percent. There are times when overhealing isn't very relevant -- namely when you're swimming in excess...
Forum: Priests 05/19/09, 7:55 PM
Replies: 1,039
Views: 926,678
Posted By Promethia
Where's a flame emote when I need it?...

Where's a flame emote when I need it? ;)

Actually, I pretty much agree. Overhealing is only a "problem" if mana is a problem. In other words, there's nothing wrong with healing someone more than...
Forum: Priests 05/19/09, 5:58 AM
Replies: 1,039
Views: 926,678
Posted By Promethia
Healing done? Hmm... Perhaps you can elaborate...

Healing done? Hmm... Perhaps you can elaborate more on what you mean here. I have actually looked at a lot of log data, and nothing is significantly correlated with the "healing done" statistic,...
Forum: Priests 05/17/09, 8:50 AM
Replies: 1,039
Views: 926,678
Posted By Promethia
No. Your calculations may be "correct", but they...

No. Your calculations may be "correct", but they are not really solving the problem.

You are assuming that "maximizing your healing output" is the goal, when it is not. Instead, we are interested...
Forum: Priests 05/16/09, 8:09 PM
Replies: 566
Views: 815,143
Posted By Promethia
I completely agree that it is a mistake to ignore...

I completely agree that it is a mistake to ignore greater heal, skip divine fury, etc. I routinely use greater heal and do not have too much trouble finding uses for it. In fact, since 3.1 it has...
Forum: Priests 05/15/09, 9:30 PM
Replies: 1,039
Views: 926,678
Posted By Promethia
I agree... but I don't think anyone has been...

I agree... but I don't think anyone has been saying it is that black and white. That is, the argument isn't that a slightly improved single target heal is always a lifesaver, nor that slightly...
Forum: Priests 05/15/09, 2:41 PM
Replies: 566
Views: 815,143
Posted By Promethia
Yeah, those posted numbers are not quite fair...

Yeah, those posted numbers are not quite fair because you're applying modifiers to spirit but not to intellect, so your calculated breakpoint for intellect is really intellect after buffs. A reader...
Forum: Priests 05/10/09, 11:35 PM
Replies: 566
Views: 815,143
Posted By Promethia
I agree. I especially don't like the idea of...

I agree. I especially don't like the idea of capping haste at 6%. For one thing, raid compositions often vary, so you are not guaranteed all available raid haste buff. If you only consider...
Forum: Priests 05/01/09, 8:38 AM
Replies: 1,039
Views: 926,678
Posted By Promethia
It depends on several things, but the regen...

It depends on several things, but the regen formula (in Mp5) from the original post is:

5 \cdot 0.005575 \cdot 0.6 \cdot (Spirit) \sqrt{Intellect}\text{, or}
0.016725 \cdot (Spirit)...
Forum: Priests 04/30/09, 8:05 PM
Replies: 1,039
Views: 926,678
Posted By Promethia
It's more 15 mp/5, maybe a little more, depending...

It's more 15 mp/5, maybe a little more, depending on other stats and how often you're ooFSR.

Of course the decision is going to be partly driven by whether you want more throughput or mana, but the...
Forum: Priests 04/29/09, 7:29 PM
Replies: 566
Views: 815,143
Posted By Promethia
Yes, haste effects are multiplicative with your...

Yes, haste effects are multiplicative with your haste rating being one of the multiplicative factors -- that's the way I remember it. I don't always have WoA and boomkin aura, and I'm sure others...
Forum: Priests 04/29/09, 7:35 AM
Replies: 1,039
Views: 926,678
Posted By Promethia
Ideally, you'd like to minimize your distance...

Ideally, you'd like to minimize your distance from the optimum balance, even if you cannot attain that balance. Minimizing each stat in turn as you suggest might tell you which stats are worst to be...
Forum: Priests 04/29/09, 4:12 AM
Replies: 22
Views: 28,080
Posted By Promethia
Sacred Shield absorbs a fixed amount of damage,...

Sacred Shield absorbs a fixed amount of damage, and if you look through the log you'll usually see how much it is quite readily. Often, it will go down in one hit and will be the only thing on the...
Forum: Priests 04/28/09, 9:48 PM
Replies: 22
Views: 28,080
Posted By Promethia
The process was posted here...

The process was posted here (http://elitistjerks.com/f77/t35208-wotlk_healing_compendium_v3_0_theorycraft_specs_etc/post1060815.html#post1060815).

For convenience, here is the key portion:



I'm...
Forum: Priests 04/28/09, 4:14 AM
Replies: 1,039
Views: 926,678
Posted By Promethia
I agree except I'd say two stat equivalences: one...

I agree except I'd say two stat equivalences: one for maximizing throughput, and one for maximizing regeneration.

You've done a good job explaining why coming up with a consensus on a standard stat...
Forum: Priests 04/26/09, 9:05 PM
Replies: 566
Views: 815,143
Posted By Promethia
I think 3 spirit to 1 Mp5 may be slightly high. ...

I think 3 spirit to 1 Mp5 may be slightly high. Not too long ago, I also looked at the relative value of spirit vs mp5 across a variety of circumstances, including some optimistic and pessimistic...
Forum: Priests 04/25/09, 6:20 AM
Replies: 566
Views: 815,143
Posted By Promethia
Yeah, that blue post got a "what??" from me as...

Yeah, that blue post got a "what??" from me as well. Thinking that mana limits the over-use of PW:Shield is very backwards given the new rapture mechanic. One of the reasons I do not like the new...
Forum: Priests 04/25/09, 4:04 AM
Replies: 1,039
Views: 926,678
Posted By Promethia
Alright, fair enough: there could be DPS players...

Alright, fair enough: there could be DPS players doing some important things besides DPS, and you do need to consider only those actually doing DPS. Better yet, if you want to be more precise, you...
Forum: Priests 04/24/09, 9:39 PM
Replies: 1,039
Views: 926,678
Posted By Promethia
You are mistaken if you think I dismiss "bring...

You are mistaken if you think I dismiss "bring more DPS" as a bad strategy. I'm not sure where I said that, but if I implied it in any way, I didn't mean to. Of course bringing more DPS is great if...
Forum: Priests 04/23/09, 11:59 PM
Replies: 1,039
Views: 926,678
Posted By Promethia
No, no, no -- all experts agree that the real...

No, no, no -- all experts agree that the real problem is that all the other experts are wrong. ;)

I'm definitely in the "regen is king and throughput is of secondary importance" camp. Even when not...
Forum: Priests 04/23/09, 9:01 PM
Replies: 566
Views: 815,143
Posted By Promethia
I have actually never, ever seen the tank lose...

I have actually never, ever seen the tank lose aggro from PS. Of course, that may be because I never do it early (before the tank has established aggro). I used to worry about that and check omen...
Forum: Priests 04/22/09, 3:47 PM
Replies: 566
Views: 815,143
Posted By Promethia
To be more clear, I argue that a combined score...

To be more clear, I argue that a combined score can mislead some player into thinking they need more throughput or mana/regen than they do but that it does not matter a whole lot because even if you...
Forum: Priests 04/20/09, 7:23 PM
Replies: 566
Views: 815,143
Posted By Promethia
I agree that one should mostly gear to either...

I agree that one should mostly gear to either longevity or throughput, rather than trying to come up with some combined metric. So why then offer a 60/40 throughput to logevity weight? That will...
Forum: Priests 04/16/09, 11:32 PM
Replies: 801
Views: 287,558
Posted By Promethia
For disc specs, I agree divine fury would be...

For disc specs, I agree divine fury would be better than imp renew. Even aside from the added bonus to DPS via holy fire and smite, you effectively kill greater heal as you reduce points into divine...
Forum: Priests 04/13/09, 9:01 PM
Replies: 22
Views: 28,080
Posted By Promethia
I pretty much agree there should hardly be any...

I pretty much agree there should hardly be any difference, especially when you're talking about tank healing where there is constant ongoing damage. The vast majority of healing will end up...
Forum: Priests 04/10/09, 5:57 AM
Replies: 2,225
Views: 1,386,307
Posted By Promethia
Yeah, spirit should be pretty clearly better for...

Yeah, spirit should be pretty clearly better for holy than mp5, largely because of the spell power bonus. It's a closer call for disc priests.

In addition, spirit regen scales synergistically with...
Forum: Priests 04/10/09, 4:47 AM
Replies: 22
Views: 28,080
Posted By Promethia
Yes, I suppose you sometimes need something to...

Yes, I suppose you sometimes need something to combat the prevailing ignorance out there...

I like how it separates out absorbed damage for everyone. It should be a different statistic that is not...
Forum: Priests 04/06/09, 10:05 PM
Replies: 516
Views: 536,971
Posted By Promethia
1. It is fairly easy to figure out how much a DA...

1. It is fairly easy to figure out how much a DA shield can absorb based on crit heal sizes.
2. It is not at all easy to figure out how much damage absorption a DA shield has left in it when it...
Forum: Priests 03/31/09, 10:36 PM
Replies: 22
Views: 28,080
Posted By Promethia
Yes, although I believe in over 500,000 events,...

Yes, although I believe in over 500,000 events, only 2 were ambiguous. And "ambiguous" only meant I could not guarantee an exact value: I could still make very informed estimates based on prior...
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