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Paladins
06/30/09, 1:58 PM
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Holy Paladin thread for Patch 3.3 changes
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Arthaal
I would have agreed with your statement pre-3.0 -...
I would have agreed with your statement pre-3.0 - It would have been a stretch when wotlk launched (especially with 2 min seals thrown in), with the addition of the SS-FoL-HoT system, I'd have to say...
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Paladins
06/26/09, 2:10 PM
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Holy Paladin thread for Patch 3.3 changes
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Arthaal
You know I recently had this same argument with a...
You know I recently had this same argument with a guildie and, after giving it some more thought came out with the conclusion that: now that downranking is no more, is anyone really selecting heals...
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Paladins
06/26/09, 1:48 AM
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3.1 Retribution Paladin Thread
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Arthaal
But, in their current form, they could pop out,...
But, in their current form, they could pop out, Battle Rez, Innervate a healer and pop back into cat and still outdps us. That's what he was getting at.
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Paladins
06/25/09, 3:48 PM
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3.2 PTR - Retribution Discussion
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Arthaal
I fail to see how the situation you describe (and...
I fail to see how the situation you describe (and which I experienced myself on the PTR this morning) is in any way, shape or form different from the current FCFS paradigm. We're still hitting...
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Paladins
06/24/09, 3:31 PM
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897
3.2 PTR - Retribution Discussion
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Arthaal
A single comment while I await my PTR patch...
A single comment while I await my PTR patch download: while Hand of Reckonning may be usable on target dummies, it will seldomly be usable in PvE encounters with the taunt effect and, if someone is...
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Paladins
06/24/09, 1:10 PM
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The Holy Paladin Guide for 3.1
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569,788
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Arthaal
The state of the holy tree was apparent to most...
The state of the holy tree was apparent to most holy paladins even amidst the claims of revamped prot/ret trees pre-3.0 launch. The problem comes down to too few spells to modify in any meaningful...
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Paladins
06/23/09, 1:30 PM
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The Holy Paladin Guide for 3.1
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Arthaal
I'm inclined to agree that the pet healing...
I'm inclined to agree that the pet healing modifiers are going to be addressed before the end of the PTRs. There's just no way a gimmick like that would get through (plus it would truly be a sad...
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Paladins
06/18/09, 2:48 PM
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3.1 Retribution Paladin Thread
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Arthaal
The exo change is the proc based mechanic......
The exo change is the proc based mechanic... uninteresting as it is. It's even less interesting in that the AoW changes mean it only procs off melee hits, not specials.
That being said, they've...
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Paladins
06/18/09, 2:21 PM
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3.1 Retribution Paladin Thread
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Arthaal
If you reread the paragraph you yourself quoted,...
If you reread the paragraph you yourself quoted, they specifically state "reduced cooldown and damage".
The SoV changes should be good - free expertise with the glyph is also a nice option once that...
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Paladins
06/18/09, 1:41 PM
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The Holy Paladin Guide for 3.1
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569,788
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Arthaal
Dynamic? I don't know that me healing pretty...
Dynamic? I don't know that me healing pretty much anyone in the raid provided they are grouped (aside: are we going to start setting up grouped melee DPS just to maximize HPS output on the tank?)...
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Paladins
05/28/09, 2:06 PM
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3.1 Retribution Paladin Thread
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1,103,475
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Arthaal
Most probably because it was discussed in the 3.0...
Most probably because it was discussed in the 3.0 thread... over something like 3 pages worth of posts.
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Paladins
05/23/09, 12:48 PM
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The Holy Paladin Guide for 3.1
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Arthaal
The most recent GC statement also patently...
The most recent GC statement also patently ignores that the classes he names, for the most part, have talents which allows them some throughput benefits from spirit - while mp5, for us, offers no...
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Paladins
05/22/09, 1:05 PM
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The Holy Paladin Guide for 3.1
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Arthaal
It's a pretty important misconstruing of the...
It's a pretty important misconstruing of the classes mechanics and players gearing aims to say that Holy paladins don't care about regen because Illumination is too strong. If anything, we're...
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Paladins
04/28/09, 9:14 PM
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The Holy Paladin Guide for 3.1
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Arthaal
It's a little bit misleading to include a...
It's a little bit misleading to include a profession bonus when attempting to outline the benefits of a particular flask you might be trying to advocate for. In addition, as is mentioned in the...
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Paladins
04/28/09, 7:22 PM
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The Holy Paladin Guide for 3.1
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Arthaal
I believe the reason a lot of players are drawn...
I believe the reason a lot of players are drawn to such deep ret or deep prot builds is that, before this expansion, deep holy only really offered us could be reduced to 0.5s off a HL, more crit and...
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Paladins
04/26/09, 10:18 PM
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3.1 Retribution Paladin Thread
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Arthaal
Generally speaking, the advice on the first post...
Generally speaking, the advice on the first post is targeted at the end level 80 raiding crowd. Leveling was never really considered when writing the bulk of what's there. Considering you're stuck...
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Paladins
04/25/09, 2:16 PM
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3.1 Retribution Paladin Thread
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Arthaal
GC's latest response in that thread seems to make...
GC's latest response in that thread seems to make it abundantly clear that the focus isn't to improve the act of damage dealing, but to add penalties to DPS when target switching/moving/providing...
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Paladins
04/24/09, 11:17 PM
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3.1 Retribution Paladin Thread
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Arthaal
Yes I suppose that might have been what he meant...
Yes I suppose that might have been what he meant (and of course no developer would admit he was designing or had designed a boring system) by interactive. I took it to mean, eternal optimist that I...
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Paladins
04/24/09, 5:41 PM
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3.1 Retribution Paladin Thread
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Arthaal
Just a quick observation: you're basically...
Just a quick observation: you're basically turning PvE into a 3 button spam fest from a 4 button one aren't you? I mean if Exo is burst and Judgement is stronger DPS over an 8s DoT... you'd build...
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Paladins
04/23/09, 3:41 PM
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3.1 Retribution Paladin Thread
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Arthaal
Burst per cycle? Apologies, but a cycle...
Burst per cycle? Apologies, but a cycle providing regular, consistent damage is the opposite of burst. A CS + Seal critting for possibly 8k (if both crit) followed by a DS hitting harder is...
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Paladins
04/22/09, 5:09 PM
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3.1 Retribution Paladin Thread
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Arthaal
To convince yourself: FCFS, highest DPS first. ...
To convince yourself: FCFS, highest DPS first. The thinking is right on the front page and it's what gives us the currently accepted CS>HoW>J>DS>Cons>Exo>HW. If you accept that FCFS is a good...
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Paladins
04/21/09, 7:16 PM
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1,502
3.1 Retribution Paladin Thread
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Arthaal
Your statement is just as contentious as mine...
Your statement is just as contentious as mine was. Ret might have been too weak to compete or holy too attractive to ignore. Either situations might be true, or they both might be, and we can't...
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Paladins
04/21/09, 5:57 PM
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3.1 Retribution Paladin Thread
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Arthaal
Which sounds awesome... if it can be done in a...
Which sounds awesome... if it can be done in a timely fashion. I mean who among us wouldn't want more depth in our combat system and something beyond mashing FCFS. The way it was done is obviously...
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Paladins
04/20/09, 7:05 PM
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3.1 Retribution Paladin Thread
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Arthaal
The really odd thing about this entire discussion...
The really odd thing about this entire discussion is that we had the talent, in its overpowered form, on a 5 minute cooldown, available to us for quite awhile prior to 3.1 and very few people...
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Paladins
04/20/09, 3:39 AM
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Paladin: Simple Questions/Simple Answers
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Arthaal
A noble goal. Most of your questions should be...
A noble goal. Most of your questions should be addressed in the first post of the Holy thread in this forum. Broadly speaking: don't worry about crit and SP levels - they'll come with gear and be...
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Paladins
04/20/09, 3:30 AM
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The Holy Paladin Guide for WotLK
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1,846,191
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Arthaal
No one's saying HS isn't useful. It is, however,...
No one's saying HS isn't useful. It is, however, strictly inferior HPS to HL. Yes, even taking into account a chance at 20% extra crit.
As such, using it every cooldown is, without a doubt, a net...
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Paladins
04/19/09, 1:59 PM
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2,260
The Holy Paladin Guide for WotLK
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1,846,191
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Arthaal
And yet your HPS is still strictly inferior than...
And yet your HPS is still strictly inferior than that achieved by maximizing the number of HL casts...
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Paladins
04/18/09, 5:21 PM
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1,502
3.1 Retribution Paladin Thread
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1,103,475
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Arthaal
My assessment is, if you're having to use it,...
My assessment is, if you're having to use it, shit has hit the fan and the raid losing your DPS for another 12s of your tank living is probably worth it over wiping now. I wouldn't pitch it as use...
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Public Discussion
04/18/09, 2:33 PM
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Rawr (v2.3.23 released on 9/12)
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Arthaal
Reposting this, as it may in fact have had more...
Reposting this, as it may in fact have had more to do with the main module then with the ret module:
In some damage dealing modules, Rawr breaks down DPS per ability under it's main view. Would it...
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Paladins
04/17/09, 11:27 PM
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2,260
The Holy Paladin Guide for WotLK
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1,846,191
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Arthaal
You'd have a point if our situation had truly...
You'd have a point if our situation had truly changed with the release of 3.1, however:
1. Our regen wasn't hit nearly as hard as other healing specs were.
2. The only substantial loss is arguably...
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Paladins
04/17/09, 5:07 PM
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1,502
3.1 Retribution Paladin Thread
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Arthaal
I was thinking more like HoSac + HoP on yourself...
I was thinking more like HoSac + HoP on yourself for pally pain suppression on bosses... limited usefulness but still.
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Paladins
04/17/09, 2:23 PM
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3.1 Retribution Paladin Thread
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1,103,475
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Arthaal
A few posts last page went into the net effect of...
A few posts last page went into the net effect of DSac on tantrums and a few other Ulduar bosses - could anyone go out and attempt stacking DSac to see how that's handled damage wise? Is 150% of all...
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Paladins
04/17/09, 2:24 AM
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1,502
3.1 Retribution Paladin Thread
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Arthaal
Nope, they're both 10s... which probably explains...
Nope, they're both 10s... which probably explains people getting destroyed right as Div. Protection ends and while their Div. Sac remains active for another 1.5s. Like it was reported earlier, I...
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Paladins
04/16/09, 5:26 PM
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1,873
The Protection Paladin Field Manual (WoW-3.0/WotLK)
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Arthaal
Did they not get around to implementing...
Did they not get around to implementing resilience not working in a PvE setting that they were talking about before 3.0 came out?
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Paladins
04/16/09, 4:57 PM
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Rawr Retribution Model
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Arthaal
I have a feature request: Rawr breaks down DPS...
I have a feature request: Rawr breaks down DPS per ability under it's main view. Would it be terribly difficult to add the corresponding percentage value of total DPS that each ability contributes...
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Paladins
04/15/09, 7:04 PM
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2,260
The Holy Paladin Guide for WotLK
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1,846,191
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This is how it worked on the PTR already and will...
This is how it worked on the PTR already and will probably prove fairly awesome once 4pT8 is available to players. What I want to know is, will it stack... i.e. is the leftover amount on shield...
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Paladins
04/14/09, 7:47 PM
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Ret FCFS Rotation Helper
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Which is precisely why I specified 25 mans... In...
Which is precisely why I specified 25 mans... In 10 mans, 5 mans, I'd probably want to prioritize DP, but without seeing the true state of mana return when the realms go live it's tough to say...
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Paladins
04/14/09, 12:04 PM
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Ret FCFS Rotation Helper
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I think the priority of DP over SS will probably...
I think the priority of DP over SS will probably depend on the mana regen situation we're faced with in Ulduar. Early tests indicate we shouldn't be struggling for mana (most likely mana positive...
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Paladins
04/14/09, 2:18 AM
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3.1 Retribution Paladin Thread
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Arthaal
Different spreadsheets/tools are coming out with...
Different spreadsheets/tools are coming out with different ratings when considering str vs hit/exp. As far as I can remember, hit is only coming out far ahead in one of those resources, and very...
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Paladins
04/09/09, 2:09 PM
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2,260
The Holy Paladin Guide for WotLK
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1,846,191
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Arthaal
Technically, and particularly with the upcoming...
Technically, and particularly with the upcoming 3.1 changes to IoL, using HS over HL is strictly a reduction in your HPS output. If you're not moving, or saving someone from imminent death, you...
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Paladins
04/08/09, 11:47 PM
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The Retribution Paladin Thread (Wrath/3.0)
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Arthaal
With buffs worked out above, I think a Holy pally...
With buffs worked out above, I think a Holy pally could probably average out at 2500-2600 or so, assuming they're gemming as per the guidelines in the EJ thread... that is, no one's stacking SP...
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Paladins
04/08/09, 7:10 PM
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The Retribution Paladin Thread (Wrath/3.0)
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I also happen to think it's a move to help us out...
I also happen to think it's a move to help us out a bit in light of the fact that we're losing some of the burst we relied on for success currently (JoB - as small as our success so far has been). ...
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Paladins
04/08/09, 4:59 PM
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The Retribution Paladin Thread (Wrath/3.0)
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Ah ok, I haven't been playing much of late, I...
Ah ok, I haven't been playing much of late, I thought I was losing track of my buffs... Stat food of course for an extra 46SP (718 total). Improved Divine spirit will no longer stack with Totem of...
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Paladins
04/08/09, 4:19 PM
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3,523
The Retribution Paladin Thread (Wrath/3.0)
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1,876,369
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Arthaal
Scales wasn't the appropriate word. Let's say...
Scales wasn't the appropriate word. Let's say it's quite nearly as strong coming from a retribution paladin, combined with the fact that early protection tree isn't that attractive to holy, making...
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Paladins
04/08/09, 2:00 PM
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3,523
The Retribution Paladin Thread (Wrath/3.0)
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Arthaal
And with raid wide AoE the way it's been reported...
And with raid wide AoE the way it's been reported in Ulduar, it's looking like a great talent for Retribution. The 12s duration on the proc also goes some way towards making Holy paladins slightly...
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Paladins
04/08/09, 12:52 AM
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3,523
The Retribution Paladin Thread (Wrath/3.0)
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Arthaal
You're confusing me toastr, I was almost certain...
You're confusing me toastr, I was almost certain the 100% increase referred only to the SS application, not the shield "proc". If what you describe is in fact the case, are Holy paladins with 4pc T8...
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Paladins
04/05/09, 11:52 PM
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3,523
The Retribution Paladin Thread (Wrath/3.0)
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1,876,369
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Arthaal
Well ideally whomever starts a thread assumes...
Well ideally whomever starts a thread assumes responsibility of the information in the first post and should keep it up to date or pass on the flag to a new custodian. A new thread per patch...
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Paladins
04/05/09, 3:07 AM
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3,523
The Retribution Paladin Thread (Wrath/3.0)
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1,876,369
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Arthaal
I was concerned with exorcism until they changed...
I was concerned with exorcism until they changed SoB. With the weaker Judgements I see exorcism becoming our go to burst (except better because of the range... it's too bad we can't pickup the...
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Paladins
04/05/09, 1:42 AM
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3,523
The Retribution Paladin Thread (Wrath/3.0)
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1,876,369
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Arthaal
Anybody else feeling like the SS scaling with...
Anybody else feeling like the SS scaling with Shol "bug" was only reclassified as such after they initially borked our PTR damage output and "fixed" to somehow compensate for that loss? They might...
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Paladins
04/04/09, 2:52 PM
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3,523
The Retribution Paladin Thread (Wrath/3.0)
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1,876,369
Posted By
Arthaal
And even if it did, it's once a minute (at worst...
And even if it did, it's once a minute (at worst once every 30s - but I think most players will be opting for DG) and means:
1. Negating most SoB recoil (your healers will like you more).
2. An...
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