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Forum: Paladins 01/09/12, 1:09 AM
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Posted By thatbox
New PTR build finally containing the HR nerf we...

New PTR build finally containing the HR nerf we all knew was coming:

This is an increase from 8197 mana to 9368, a change of 1171.
Forum: Paladins 12/28/11, 2:25 PM
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Posted By thatbox
As far as I can tell this is untrue right now,...

As far as I can tell this is untrue right now, which means crit definitely hasn't "always" been the strongest stat in no OH scenarios. That's why they buffed it: even with no OH, it wasn't providing...
Forum: Paladins 12/20/11, 8:44 PM
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Posted By thatbox
With GoAK, WoG would probably be an HPS increase...

With GoAK, WoG would probably be an HPS increase over HR in most reasonable situations, although you'd probably still be better off using LoD if the single target healing weren't required.

For my...
Forum: Paladins 11/24/11, 10:04 PM
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Posted By thatbox
I'm interested in the SP coefficient for 4.3 HR,...

I'm interested in the SP coefficient for 4.3 HR, assuming Wowhead's base heal amounts are correct. I'd work for it myself but I had to uninstall the PTR.
Forum: Paladins 11/24/11, 1:57 PM
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Posted By thatbox
Does anyone have Holy Radiance's formula handy?

Does anyone have Holy Radiance's formula handy?
Forum: Paladins 11/17/11, 4:12 PM
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Posted By thatbox
While it may affect 80%-90% of our heals, it...

While it may affect 80%-90% of our heals, it certainly doesn't affect 80%-90% of our healing. On a spell-by-spell basis haste continues to be our strongest throughput stat. Using the following...
Forum: Paladins 11/03/11, 7:19 PM
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Posted By thatbox
Does Holy Radiance on PTR proc PotI?

Does Holy Radiance on PTR proc PotI?
Forum: Paladins 10/29/11, 5:41 PM
Replies: 144
Views: 144,825
Posted By thatbox
They're proposing a system similar to Glyph...

They're proposing a system similar to Glyph swapping, so presumably Prot will swap between SS and AD on a per-fight basis depending on damage profiles and cooldown availability.
Forum: Paladins 10/26/11, 7:19 PM
Replies: 144
Views: 144,825
Posted By thatbox
The talent system has been redesigned, and the...

The talent system has been redesigned, and the only spec choices are as follows (choose one from each tier):

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1. Speed of Light [Instant, 1m CD]: Increases your movement speed by 60% for 6s....
Forum: Paladins 10/25/11, 4:48 PM
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Posted By thatbox
Along those same lines, I typed up the proposed...

Along those same lines, I typed up the proposed paladin talents if anyone prefers an easier-to-read format. My apologies if this is inappropriate for this thread, but these changes are at least...
Forum: Paladins 10/19/11, 5:30 PM
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Posted By thatbox
Yeah, the talent build I was referencing had both...

Yeah, the talent build I was referencing had both 3/3 PotI and 2/2 Last Word. I'd move the third PotI point to a Judgement range talent, not either of the crappy DPS options (2/2 LW is pretty...
Forum: Paladins 10/19/11, 3:06 PM
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Posted By thatbox
I absolutely think that's viable, considering...

I absolutely think that's viable, considering that's how paladins have worked since T7. Haste/regen (crit in T7 and T8, MP5 and Spirit afterwards) continues to be the safest, broadest and most...
Forum: Paladins 10/18/11, 10:42 PM
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Posted By thatbox
Can someone on PTR check to see how many talent...

Can someone on PTR check to see how many talent points are needed in Tower of Radiance for Holy Radiance to generate Holy Power? Is it a one-third chance for each point invested?
Forum: Paladins 10/18/11, 1:49 PM
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Posted By thatbox
PTR notes have been updated. WoG, EJ, PotI and...

PTR notes have been updated. WoG, EJ, PotI and the initial HR heal have been removed from Beacon. I'd like to think that WoG is a typo (especially considering that LoD still transfers), but honestly...
Forum: Paladins 09/29/11, 2:12 PM
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Posted By thatbox
These calculations produce the amount of Spirit...

These calculations produce the amount of Spirit you will need, total, for the change to be a buff. When I say, for example, that our paladin with 6k Intellect and a 14s average Judgement CD will need...
Forum: Paladins 09/29/11, 12:57 PM
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Posted By thatbox
I'm assuming that it works exactly like Holy...

I'm assuming that it works exactly like Holy Concentration - that is, 50%+30%=80% of OOC regen in-combat. Math:
Judging every 16s is worth 732MP5. Let's assume that you have 6000 Int on gear, as well...
Forum: Paladins 09/28/11, 8:45 PM
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Posted By thatbox
As far as I can tell, these are the...

As far as I can tell, these are the breakpoints:

With nothing (0% haste from buffs):
+ticks haste on gear needed
1 2,134
2 6,403
3 10,671
4 14,940
5 19,209
6 23,477
Forum: Paladins 09/26/11, 11:34 PM
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Posted By thatbox
Since the exact situation you're describing...

Since the exact situation you're describing occurred last expansion, it doesn't seem very unreasonable at all.

Two-piece T13 is, even under ideal circumstances, much less valuable than two-piece...
Forum: Paladins 07/08/11, 1:48 PM
Replies: 1,289
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Posted By thatbox
Not unless you have significant overhealing on...

Not unless you have significant overhealing on your direct heals, which begins to negate the HPM gains. In a simple two on-Beacon DL, 1 off-Beacon HL, 1 on-Beacon HS, and 1 on-Beacon WoG "rotation,"...
Forum: Paladins 07/08/11, 2:34 AM
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Posted By thatbox
Presumably your numbers don't include PotI Beacon...

Presumably your numbers don't include PotI Beacon transfer, which is a non-trivial increase to healing in such tunnel vision scenarios, or off-target Holy Light usage during light damage that would...
Forum: Paladins 07/06/11, 7:53 PM
Replies: 1,289
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Posted By thatbox
Does he increase everyone's health on hardmode,...

Does he increase everyone's health on hardmode, instead of just the tank's? If not, mastery would be by far the worst stat to take for the fight, since you'd be hitting the cap on the shields every...
Forum: Paladins 07/06/11, 4:01 PM
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Posted By thatbox
1) No, but how do you quantify when having a .05s...

1) No, but how do you quantify when having a .05s faster cast saved a life and when having 400 more mastery shielding saved a life?

2) No, but maximum potential throughput remains an important...
Forum: Paladins 07/05/11, 12:52 PM
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Posted By thatbox
Even when utilized fully, mastery continues to be...

Even when utilized fully, mastery continues to be significantly less throughput than haste itemization point for itemization point due to Beacon, PotI and HR. Zaroua, in his post, talks about...
Forum: Paladins 07/04/11, 1:46 PM
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Posted By thatbox
While there could be some updates including the...

While there could be some updates including the changes, I'm not aware of anyone else claiming that our gearing priorities are "significantly altered." Haste continues to provide maximum throughput,...
Forum: Paladins 07/01/11, 6:31 PM
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Posted By thatbox
According to that log, Divine Flame cannot proc...

According to that log, Divine Flame cannot proc on the original heal target. There seem to be numerous occurrences of that Holy paladin healing his tank with no following 4pc heal whatsoever,...
Forum: Paladins 06/27/11, 5:51 PM
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Posted By thatbox
It's assuming you hit six targets with LoD, and...

It's assuming you hit six targets with LoD, and assuming the WoG paladin glyphs WoG and specs Last Word and the target is below 35%. It doesn't take into account EG. Each target hit is worth around...
Forum: Paladins 06/27/11, 4:00 PM
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Posted By thatbox
4.2, glyphed WoG, 2/2 Last Word for my paladin,...

4.2, glyphed WoG, 2/2 Last Word for my paladin, target below 35%:
Source WoG
Initial 36,383
Mastery 4,975
Beacon 18,191
PotI 3,456
PotI B 1,728
Total 64,733
4.2, glyphed LoD for my...
Forum: Paladins 06/20/11, 10:26 PM
Replies: 262
Views: 283,918
Posted By thatbox
You should reforge the crit to Spirit, or...

You should reforge the crit to Spirit, or preferably buy the ilvl 359 haste/Spirit Blacksmithing shield.
Forum: Paladins 06/17/11, 12:10 PM
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Posted By thatbox
I also raid 10-man and don't see the mana...

I also raid 10-man and don't see the mana discrepancies that Blizzard mentions. I also think it's pretty silly to attempt to "balance" healers to have the same mana leftover at the end of fights,...
Forum: Paladins 06/16/11, 4:07 PM
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Posted By thatbox
Still, his numbers support the discussion thus...

Still, his numbers support the discussion thus far: mastery is better than crit if you rely less on things that can't proc it (Beacon, HR), crit is better than mastery if you rely more on those...
Forum: Paladins 06/11/11, 5:07 PM
Replies: 262
Views: 283,918
Posted By thatbox
People use Divine Light over Flash of Light...

People use Divine Light over Flash of Light because it's much better HPM and most of the time FoL's high-priced HPS is unnecessary. People avoid healing their Beacon targets because it's better HPM...
Forum: Paladins 06/10/11, 10:04 PM
Replies: 1,289
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Posted By thatbox
I simply meant that if you're tank healing, and...

I simply meant that if you're tank healing, and you crit with DL, you may be able to avoid casting another DL. It doesn't happen every time you crit by any means, but you can already look at a fight...
Forum: Paladins 06/10/11, 5:31 PM
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Posted By thatbox
All of that is true. It's also important to note...

All of that is true. It's also important to note that, while hard to model, 200% crits will have greater impact on spell selection (and thus efficiency beyond higher per-spell HPM) if you you have...
Forum: Paladins 06/10/11, 1:35 PM
Replies: 1,289
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Posted By thatbox
According to the numbers from the spreadsheet...

According to the numbers from the spreadsheet I've been using and posted earlier, crit and mastery are essentially equal for off-Beacon healing in both potential HPS and HPM. As you do more on-Beacon...
Forum: Paladins 06/04/11, 1:37 PM
Replies: 475
Views: 2,251,661
Posted By thatbox
I definitely understand how the HS change can be...

I definitely understand how the HS change can be used to separate the strong tanks from the lazy tanks, but I'm simply not convinced that the new ability is significant enough to feel like a good...
Forum: Paladins 05/23/11, 9:28 PM
Replies: 1,289
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Posted By thatbox
Good catch on the Holy Shock average. I forgot to...

Good catch on the Holy Shock average. I forgot to account for the 15% glyphed and talented crit in the second half of the formula. As for WoG, it seems like I messed up in the way I included the AP...
Forum: Paladins 05/23/11, 3:51 PM
Replies: 1,289
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Posted By thatbox
My own math and simple model disagree. The change...

My own math and simple model disagree. The change to 200% will push crit's HPS and HPM above that of mastery, but both are still about half as much throughput as haste. I input the exact spell...
Forum: Paladins 05/18/11, 1:32 PM
Replies: 475
Views: 2,251,661
Posted By thatbox
The mastery change does nothing to promote...

The mastery change does nothing to promote gearing for threat, and I'm not sure they're willing to readjust Vengeance in the ways they would have to to make threat stats matter again. It would be a...
Forum: Paladins 05/14/11, 1:40 PM
Replies: 1,289
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Posted By thatbox
May be a silly question, but you can't be too...

May be a silly question, but you can't be too sure: this makes Flash of Light instant? In beta IoL simply reduced its cast time, so it would unfortunately munch procs that were better spent on DL. If...
Forum: Paladins 05/02/11, 2:24 PM
Replies: 262
Views: 283,918
Posted By thatbox
Critical strike from Agility seems to be added...

Critical strike from Agility seems to be added into the spell crit stat on the paper doll. Does it actually apply to spell crit, or is it just a display error? With 99 base Agi and 549 from raid...
Forum: Paladins 04/27/11, 5:25 PM
Replies: 1,289
Views: 2,509,776
Posted By thatbox
ToR lag seems to be gone. Can anyone confirm?

ToR lag seems to be gone. Can anyone confirm?
Forum: Priests 03/31/11, 6:36 PM
Replies: 365
Views: 283,607
Posted By thatbox
What is the current base cost of PW:S? I'm...

What is the current base cost of PW:S? I'm unclear on where the hotfixes and tooltip changes have left us, and quick testing on live only shows that it's somewhere over 6k.
Forum: Paladins 03/29/11, 3:44 PM
Replies: 1,289
Views: 2,509,776
Posted By thatbox
I am interested to see your results. Before Cata...

I am interested to see your results. Before Cata release, on the PTR, HoSac damage was not reduced at all by Div Prot (just like it wasn't in Wrath). As far as I'm aware, though, BoP still prevents...
Forum: Paladins 12/15/10, 9:54 PM
Replies: 1,289
Views: 2,509,776
Posted By thatbox
Unless I'm mistaken, Beacon cannot produce...

Unless I'm mistaken, Beacon cannot produce Illuminated Healing shields.
Forum: Paladins 10/19/10, 11:56 AM
Replies: 335
Views: 519,312
Posted By thatbox
Does anyone have any feedback on what sorts of...

Does anyone have any feedback on what sorts of things BL is proccing off of in the raid encounters?
Forum: Priests 10/18/10, 11:20 PM
Replies: 244
Views: 609,384
Posted By thatbox
In Heroic 10man tonight, I discovered that Mind...

In Heroic 10man tonight, I discovered that Mind Flay no longer procs any stacks of Instability from Unchained Magic on Sindragosa. I was able to continue spamming MF while I had the debuff with no...
Forum: Paladins 10/05/10, 2:40 AM
Replies: 192
Views: 237,282
Posted By thatbox
Overhealing itself doesn't generate any threat at...

Overhealing itself doesn't generate any threat at all (and hasn't since I can remember), but it is my understanding that shields generate threat equal to half of the threat produced by the same...
Forum: Paladins 08/16/10, 7:46 PM
Replies: 2,219
Views: 694,558
Posted By thatbox
The Agi ring is higher DPS than the Str ring for...

The Agi ring is higher DPS than the Str ring for Ret because Ret gets a very generous Agi > Crit conversion and, at the same ilvl, items with more stats are more powerful, budget-wise, than items...
Forum: Paladins 02/14/10, 3:14 AM
Replies: 748
Views: 1,259,867
Posted By thatbox
I would like to apologize for suggesting that...

I would like to apologize for suggesting that people wait to take the first Dreamwalker portals on the previous page. The advice came from one of my healers in 25man (I raid 25s on my priest and...
Forum: Paladins 02/09/10, 7:50 PM
Replies: 748
Views: 1,259,867
Posted By thatbox
Well, the debuff seems to count down from when...

Well, the debuff seems to count down from when the portals spawn, not when you enter them. So if you have all your healers wait four or five seconds before taking the first portal, everyone's stacks...
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