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Forum: Priests 02/23/13, 3:07 PM
Replies: 410
Views: 252,102
Posted By Polopretress
Very interresting, did you evaluate haste...

Very interresting, did you evaluate haste requirement for that ?
Forum: Priests 02/22/13, 7:10 PM
Replies: 410
Views: 252,102
Posted By Polopretress
OK, i see that haste comes again in the...

OK, i see that haste comes again in the discussion and i am happy

Frankly speaking, i think that use derivability formula do not make a better understanding of stats priorities.

It is not necessary...
Forum: Priests 02/15/13, 7:16 PM
Replies: 410
Views: 252,102
Posted By Polopretress
Very usefull plot would be to have "Mastery...

Very usefull plot would be to have "Mastery points v/s %C" and be able to see when we are above the curve which mean that average heal is better on 5.2 than in 5.1 and when under the curve, average...
Forum: Priests 02/15/13, 5:15 PM
Replies: 410
Views: 252,102
Posted By Polopretress
Sorry, I do not understand the answer of GC. (All...

Sorry,
I do not understand the answer of GC.
(All the sentence after "but")

Does he mean that the ICD of the meta is 10 sec with 100% of chance to proc and then, as we use anothers spells by portion...
Forum: Priests 02/15/13, 12:51 PM
Replies: 410
Views: 252,102
Posted By Polopretress
Might be but not sure since attonement has some...

Might be but not sure since attonement has some special behaviors.
Forum: Priests 02/15/13, 12:33 PM
Replies: 410
Views: 252,102
Posted By Polopretress
I do not think that meta +3%crit is still a good...

I do not think that meta +3%crit is still a good choice since this modification and the modification of PW:Solace
Anyway, legendary meta will have to be rushed.

If you need 65/70% of mastery to make...
Forum: Priests 02/15/13, 8:06 AM
Replies: 410
Views: 252,102
Posted By Polopretress
All the maths have to be redo because mastery...

All the maths have to be redo because mastery effect change a lot and crit will scale also on PWS



Means that basicaly with for example 30% crit and 20 mastery points (value are approximative...
Forum: Priests 01/31/13, 11:18 AM
Replies: 410
Views: 252,102
Posted By Polopretress
Perhaps it is not a mistake and it is designed to...

Perhaps it is not a mistake and it is designed to work like this.
ie : The total value of calculated shield is multiplied by 2 in case of IF.


Because it is necessary to keep only the aegis done by...
Forum: Priests 01/30/13, 9:40 AM
Replies: 410
Views: 252,102
Posted By Polopretress
I am not always in accordance with your...

I am not always in accordance with your demonstrations.
I did not check your calculation but it is what i have tried to tell to Szeretlek.

The impact of OverHeal or OverAbsorb of Crit spells on...
Forum: Priests 01/29/13, 8:45 AM
Replies: 410
Views: 252,102
Posted By Polopretress
Maybe you speak for your gameplay because you...

Maybe you speak for your gameplay because you have calculated that spamming PoH when SS is not available is the best way to improve your HpS but i do not play like this because i prefer to go for...
Forum: Priests 01/29/13, 6:13 AM
Replies: 410
Views: 252,102
Posted By Polopretress
I do not understand where you are not in...

I do not understand where you are not in accordance together.

Basically, you write the same thing. It is not necessary to go deeply to calculate if it is 40% nerf or 38.7% nerf (just an...
Forum: Priests 01/09/13, 11:34 AM
Replies: 410
Views: 252,102
Posted By Polopretress
Havoc I have a lot of difficulty to follow you on...

Havoc
I have a lot of difficulty to follow you on the following comments which are the basics of your demonstration :



1. Haste is unaffected by overheal.
I think it does.

When you consider small...
Forum: Priests 01/08/13, 7:44 AM
Replies: 410
Views: 252,102
Posted By Polopretress
Strange. you are not in agreement because you do...

Strange.
you are not in agreement because you do not speak about the same gameplay.
One is talking about bubble spam, the others are talking about a less agressive PoH spamming and more attonement...
Forum: Priests 01/06/13, 9:34 AM
Replies: 410
Views: 252,102
Posted By Polopretress
yes, gcd is reduced. but it is difficult to...

yes, gcd is reduced.

but it is difficult to evaluate the improvement due to the haste on spells which are instant and include a cd.

For example, on a spell which is casted like PoH , you can write...
Forum: Priests 12/27/12, 4:47 AM
Replies: 410
Views: 252,102
Posted By Polopretress
ok but in this case, i do not understand the...

ok but in this case, i do not understand the comment of the patch note "Spirit Shell no longer benefits from Mastery"

In that case, maybe, we can also have H*(1+C)*1.5
SS nerf of 1 - 1.5/(1.3*(1+M))...
Forum: Priests 12/27/12, 4:28 AM
Replies: 94
Views: 227,595
Posted By Polopretress
I think i have checked in the past that the...

I think i have checked in the past that the priorities of consumption were :
Illuminated Healing > PWS > Aegis > SS

PWS is used before aegis.
But when there are 2 aegis coming from 2 disc in the...
Forum: Priests 12/26/12, 8:09 PM
Replies: 94
Views: 227,595
Posted By Polopretress
thank for your answer. yes, weakened soul is not...

thank for your answer.
yes, weakened soul is not easy to manage when there is only one tank who is taken damage on the same time.

i agree that Aegis are managed separately but i do not know how it...
Forum: Priests 12/26/12, 8:59 AM
Replies: 94
Views: 227,595
Posted By Polopretress
i am going to raid with a disc and i do not know...

i am going to raid with a disc and i do not know how absorb are managed when there are 2 disc in the same raid.

Do you have information about that ?

Is there double aegis on players or only one...
Forum: Priests 12/25/12, 3:01 PM
Replies: 410
Views: 252,102
Posted By Polopretress
your expectation : heal is H(1-C) +...

your expectation : heal is H(1-C) + 2H*C*(1+0.5*(1+M))
it means that you think that sysmatic aegis on non critical PoH has been removed from SS ?

It can be true but i would be surprised that SS...
Forum: Priests 12/24/12, 7:35 AM
Replies: 410
Views: 252,102
Posted By Polopretress
Strange ! I would maybe predict...

Strange !

I would maybe predict base_heal*(1+C)*(1.5+0.5M) = base-heal *(1.5 + 1.5c + 1.25m + 1.25cm)
(same as poh but only in absorb)

or base_heal*(1+C)*1.5 if mastery does not appear anymore in...
Forum: Priests 12/22/12, 7:31 AM
Replies: 410
Views: 252,102
Posted By Polopretress
Modification of SS regarding mastery effect will...

Modification of SS regarding mastery effect will probably have the consequance that Mastery will not be a good stat anymore.
And critical will have to be rush.
But we need to define the formula to...
Forum: Priests 12/05/12, 10:57 AM
Replies: 94
Views: 227,595
Posted By Polopretress
Absolutly correct. It is possible to have a...

Absolutly correct.
It is possible to have a second rapture proc while the spirit proc est activated but it is a dream that happened sometime but not enough relevant to take into account in the regen...
Forum: Priests 11/27/12, 3:49 AM
Replies: 410
Views: 252,102
Posted By Polopretress
From my own opinion, i always take FDCL when i...

From my own opinion, i always take FDCL when i know i will not have problem with mana.
Even if FDCL proc does not generate a high hps compare to PoH spam, i symply like very much this instant heal on...
Forum: Priests 11/26/12, 6:49 AM
Replies: 410
Views: 252,102
Posted By Polopretress
I think it has been fully discussed on another...

I think it has been fully discussed on another topic. (see http://elitistjerks.com/f77/t130588-priests_5_0_4_i_get_misty/p3/)

To compare the both, you need also to take into account the number of...
Forum: Priests 11/26/12, 5:37 AM
Replies: 410
Views: 252,102
Posted By Polopretress
Ok i have used your "OHR" thinking that it was...

Ok i have used your "OHR" thinking that it was the % of OverHeal done by the spell.

I will change in the formula i gave but it does not impact, of course, the result.

PoH effective = Base*(1 + k*SP...
Forum: Priests 11/22/12, 8:05 AM
Replies: 410
Views: 252,102
Posted By Polopretress
OK Havoc. I think you have missed something in...

OK Havoc.
I think you have missed something in your demonstration.
When i make a conclusion , i like to prove it by different manners (2 examples or 2 formulas with the same result).

I have used the...
Forum: Priests 11/21/12, 10:29 AM
Replies: 410
Views: 252,102
Posted By Polopretress
Thank for your answer ok, i did not see that it...

Thank for your answer

ok, i did not see that it was inner will.
As we all play in Inner fire in disc spec, it is better to go with this buff in simulation stats since if you compare INT with...
Forum: Priests 11/20/12, 7:21 AM
Replies: 410
Views: 252,102
Posted By Polopretress
I have about 8.8K with also 3 additional spirit...

I have about 8.8K with also 3 additional spirit proc and i feel very confortable with that level.
I take INT flask and food now because of the ratio 1:1
I do not want to lower this level but keep it...
Forum: Priests 11/19/12, 11:22 AM
Replies: 410
Views: 252,102
Posted By Polopretress
Yes, i hope that next modification will not be...

Yes, i hope that next modification will not be simply to remove them....
Probably our main problem was the amount of mana consumption while using SS.
To reduce cost of spell under SS proc would be...
Forum: Priests 11/19/12, 4:40 AM
Replies: 410
Views: 252,102
Posted By Polopretress
Strange ! I cannot be connected actually but i...

Strange !
I cannot be connected actually but i have tested like you with several values of gear and found it as Havroc.
I will tested again (i have only tested on GH)
i think explanantion of havroc...
Forum: Priests 11/16/12, 8:19 PM
Replies: 410
Views: 252,102
Posted By Polopretress
Thank to your long mail. I will analize it but...

Thank to your long mail.
I will analize it but only on monday because your different notation needs time to understand to compare method.
Forum: Priests 11/16/12, 6:37 AM
Replies: 410
Views: 252,102
Posted By Polopretress
OK Szeretlek I have just tested it to be sure...

OK Szeretlek

I have just tested it to be sure and i confirm that GH under SS has still the same formula
Average GH * ( 1 +%mastery)*(1+%crit)*(1+ 30%*%crit)

As far as i have tested several time,...
Forum: Priests 11/15/12, 5:36 AM
Replies: 410
Views: 252,102
Posted By Polopretress
i agree with Szeretlek Sorry Ohcrocsle. I have...

i agree with Szeretlek

Sorry Ohcrocsle.
I have difficulty to follow you, maybe due to my native langage, and i cannot understand what you wrote and from where you have taken these values.
Could you...
Forum: Priests 11/12/12, 12:32 PM
Replies: 410
Views: 252,102
Posted By Polopretress
I have just tested and i confirm no change on...

I have just tested and i confirm no change on live.

SS_Absorb=AvgHeal*(1+Crit)*(1+Mastery)*1,3 is still verified

I think i understand why you find 1.6...
it is because, you have forget that PoH has...
Forum: Priests 11/10/12, 8:23 PM
Replies: 410
Views: 252,102
Posted By Polopretress
you mean that formula has changed since hotfix...

you mean that formula has changed since hotfix ?

anyway, as you wrote, as it is a constant coef, it does not impact at all the result i wrote in the previous post.
All is still correct even with...
Forum: Priests 11/09/12, 11:45 AM
Replies: 410
Views: 252,102
Posted By Polopretress
Havroc, i am not at all in line with your...

Havroc, i am not at all in line with your comments.
to conclude about the best between intel and mastery , you have to consider all the gameplay.

and i just say again than intel is better than any...
Forum: Priests 11/04/12, 8:53 PM
Replies: 410
Views: 252,102
Posted By Polopretress
Wtf, are you sure for multi rapture ? Also what...

Wtf, are you sure for multi rapture ?

Also what about my comment for haste breaking points ?


note : also aegids up from 30% to 50%
Forum: Priests 10/24/12, 11:25 AM
Replies: 410
Views: 252,102
Posted By Polopretress
I have an additional subject link to haste...

I have an additional subject link to haste breakpoints given at the first page.

I have not a lot of time today to give long details of calculation but i do not agree on the breakpoint totally.
in...
Forum: Priests 10/24/12, 11:08 AM
Replies: 410
Views: 252,102
Posted By Polopretress
I think , it is not true. Intel is the best stat...

I think , it is not true.
Intel is the best stat for healers including disc spec and will stay for long time like this.

The only circonstance where Intel could be under the mastery is when your...
Forum: Priests 10/09/12, 8:55 AM
Replies: 410
Views: 252,102
Posted By Polopretress
No. conclusion is same. Mastery is strong for...

No. conclusion is same. Mastery is strong for these spells.


As Havroc wrote, the distribution of the spells in your gameplay is pushing mastery to be better than critical and haste.(it will depend...
Forum: Priests 10/02/12, 4:55 AM
Replies: 410
Views: 252,102
Posted By Polopretress
Critical stat is already included in the formula...

Critical stat is already included in the formula of SS.
That is why when you cast under SS, you have no critical effect on some cast.
Read the section : "Spell and Ability Review" on the first memo ,...
Forum: Priests 09/26/12, 9:23 AM
Replies: 410
Views: 252,102
Posted By Polopretress
Basically the fact that secondary stats provide...

Basically the fact that secondary stats provide you twice of what you can have with intel does not mean that intel is penalized by 50%.

To understand what you win on each stat, it is necessary to...
Forum: Priests 09/24/12, 10:22 AM
Replies: 94
Views: 227,595
Posted By Polopretress
yes. I take back the 3 examples i have linked and...

yes.
I take back the 3 examples i have linked and made calculation of time betwwen swing, mana regen.

I do not notice also any influence of shadowcrawl.

Roughly, i find :
Time between swing attacks...
Forum: Priests 09/22/12, 8:39 PM
Replies: 94
Views: 227,595
Posted By Polopretress
Very interresting ! i understand now, why some...

Very interresting !
i understand now, why some gcd are lost.
Nevertheless, Shadowcrawl is instant but use 1 gcd. that means that attack is delayed of 2 gcd from the previous one. So, it is not 1.5sec...
Forum: Priests 09/20/12, 12:10 PM
Replies: 94
Views: 227,595
Posted By Polopretress
i agree. It is the desired design. (i forget to...

i agree. It is the desired design.
(i forget to say that PI, PWS etc.. has no effect. Only haste rating on equipement or by trinket.

Scaling is +1 tic per 10% haste. (with exclusion of what we have...
Forum: Priests 09/19/12, 5:46 AM
Replies: 94
Views: 227,595
Posted By Polopretress
I have tried also during several hours and main...

I have tried also during several hours and main results are 11 attacks.

But you cannot close your eyes about the log i have linked.(alone, without buff on a dummy low level)

Try N°2 at 0H26 ==> 12...
Forum: Priests 09/18/12, 6:43 PM
Replies: 94
Views: 227,595
Posted By Polopretress
Dear Havoc12 Juste about my comment about pets...

Dear Havoc12

Juste about my comment about pets who can integrate haste , i made a file with the following logs :
https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B3Db4qt1FcVeQTVOdHk0UHVoSUU

It is easy to find...
Forum: Priests 09/18/12, 5:47 PM
Replies: 94
Views: 227,595
Posted By Polopretress
Thank. I made a complete mistake and i just see...

Thank.
I made a complete mistake and i just see IG that hymn of hope did not depend on haste no more.

For Mindbender and fiend , it is very stange because i have noticed the same thing as you about...
Forum: Priests 09/18/12, 9:11 AM
Replies: 94
Views: 227,595
Posted By Polopretress
I open this subject because i am really confused...

I open this subject because i am really confused about my result and would have a confirmation from you if i am wrong or right.

Objectif of calculation was, at the begginning, to simply calculate...
Forum: Priests 09/05/12, 11:19 AM
Replies: 175
Views: 71,011
Posted By Polopretress
But under this comparaizon between MB, Solace,...

But under this comparaizon between MB, Solace, the real question is : how much we win in term of MP5 and what are the consequences ?

We speak only about a gain of 300/400M5 (@LV85) depending on the...
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