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Forum: Public Discussion 01/10/07, 2:44 AM
Replies: 394
Views: 68,807
Posted By Pantone
What's really messed up about the druid threat...

What's really messed up about the druid threat change (aside from being absolute clones of warriors, especially as lacerate does up-front innate threat like sunder) is that it utterly fubars the...
Forum: Public Discussion 01/07/07, 2:13 PM
Replies: 2,147
Views: 189,579
Posted By Pantone
Sadly, my testing with the Pred. Instincts talent...

Sadly, my testing with the Pred. Instincts talent and a mage in live 2.0 seems to indicate that PI only prevents damage from non-binary effects. So basically no AoEs that are used in PvP except for...
Forum: Public Discussion 01/04/07, 7:19 PM
Replies: 139
Views: 22,313
Posted By Pantone
17% spellhit versus a level 63 mob should make...

17% spellhit versus a level 63 mob should make taunt (almost?) unresistable for pallies, druids, and warriors. However, spellhit is impractical for druids and warriors due to gearing issues. If pally...
Forum: Public Discussion 01/04/07, 4:03 PM
Replies: 139
Views: 22,313
Posted By Pantone
Interestingly, paladins may be able to stack...

Interestingly, paladins may be able to stack spellhit, unlike warriors or druids. That may have some interesting ramifications with taunt and their threat moves--with holy damage and enough spell...
Forum: Public Discussion 12/29/06, 6:39 AM
Replies: 499
Views: 41,372
Posted By Pantone
Is this for a full DPS cat build? In your best...

Is this for a full DPS cat build? In your best DPS gear?[/quote]
Spec: 0/41/10 - http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=MZxhhscrdVhsuVx

Gear:
(It is quite a few ilevels lower than the warrior's, but...
Forum: Public Discussion 12/29/06, 5:52 AM
Replies: 499
Views: 41,372
Posted By Pantone
Well, I don't think anyone *wants* a prot warrior...

Well, I don't think anyone *wants* a prot warrior in full tank gear to be able to swap in a new weapon and do 500DPS. What is realistic, however, is the expectation that devestate can deliver good...
Forum: Public Discussion 12/29/06, 1:09 AM
Replies: 43
Views: 7,253
Posted By Pantone
/shrug. Each mob of the zerg defeated drops (or...

/shrug. Each mob of the zerg defeated drops (or in case of a boss, "scales" he "sheds" when "hurt") can be used as either a protection pot or turned in to an NPC in bulk for a raid buff. Something...
Forum: Public Discussion 12/29/06, 1:01 AM
Replies: 499
Views: 41,372
Posted By Pantone
Regarding the "prot warrior DPS" and "500"...

Regarding the "prot warrior DPS" and "500" debacle, I urge you to turn your eyes from theorycraft and spreadsheets and look at the real-world tests done in post 872 of this thread:...
Forum: Public Discussion 12/28/06, 9:11 PM
Replies: 2,147
Views: 189,579
Posted By Pantone
Well, you've got 5% base resist to fear and...

Well, you've got 5% base resist to fear and magic. With the +hit gear, I think it's telling that I got zero. I got hit by 10 frost novas and about 20 CoC's, so it's possible but unlikely I got lucky.
Forum: Public Discussion 12/28/06, 6:22 PM
Replies: 2,147
Views: 189,579
Posted By Pantone
Some bad news: I just spent some time with a mage...

Some bad news: I just spent some time with a mage testing 5/5 pred. instincts. He had +4% hit, I had 0 arcane/fire/frost resistance.

I resisted 1/6th of his arcane explosions and firestrikes. I did...
Forum: Public Discussion 12/28/06, 4:43 PM
Replies: 43
Views: 7,253
Posted By Pantone
Since this doesn't have to be carefully balanced...

Since this doesn't have to be carefully balanced (it's a bonus round, okay?) you could do some very interesting things with randomness. Imagine a room in naxx where a random trash mob (from the...
Forum: Public Discussion 12/28/06, 4:28 PM
Replies: 499
Views: 41,372
Posted By Pantone
Let's not forget that for the 60 raiding game at...

Let's not forget that for the 60 raiding game at least, people are willing to give up huge amounts of aggro generation for 1% more mitigation. People keep pointing at single-target threat generation...
Forum: Public Discussion 12/23/06, 4:46 PM
Replies: 198
Views: 36,297
Posted By Pantone
^^ Sunken temple isn't really hard for a feral...

^^ Sunken temple isn't really hard for a feral druid, I was poking down there for the broodlord head quest and killed the two flying dragons in bear without ever dropping under 90% health. Trash was...
Forum: Public Discussion 12/20/06, 11:26 PM
Replies: 499
Views: 41,372
Posted By Pantone
A few notes on druids: 1. Barkskin can't be used...

A few notes on druids:
1. Barkskin can't be used in forms, so it's only for extra mitigation at the start of pulls (the attack penalty has been removed however, so it's "free." The value of this is...
Forum: Public Discussion 12/20/06, 7:06 PM
Replies: 499
Views: 41,372
Posted By Pantone
Well, this is a fun game, I'll throw the druid...

Well, this is a fun game, I'll throw the druid hat in for math and comparison.

Single target at level 60 (because we know the threat values):
- Druid pulls with wrath. 250 damage, 250 threat
-...
Forum: Public Discussion 12/20/06, 11:21 AM
Replies: 499
Views: 41,372
Posted By Pantone
So... there's been a lot of speculation. I know...

So... there's been a lot of speculation. I know the itemization isn't there yet (esp for paladins), but has anyone noticed their raid group stacking druids or paladins since the 2.0 patch? Has it...
Forum: Public Discussion 12/20/06, 10:54 AM
Replies: 540
Views: 89,774
Posted By Pantone
ilevels rating would be okay, but you would have...

ilevels rating would be okay, but you would have to have some sort of new interface to make it explicit how many "points" each consumable is or you'll just confuse the hell out of the casual player...
Forum: Public Discussion 12/19/06, 1:07 AM
Replies: 540
Views: 89,774
Posted By Pantone
A number of people have suggested that raid...

A number of people have suggested that raid bosses drop more gold, BoEs, or whathaveyou so that raiders can just purchase the potions from casuals, who would be motivated to farm the herbs from...
Forum: Public Discussion 12/18/06, 11:24 PM
Replies: 499
Views: 41,372
Posted By Pantone
Frankly, I don't think it really matters what...

Frankly, I don't think it really matters what /we/ think should happen, or how things work at level 60. It seems very clear that blizzard wants to see 3 classes tank, blizzard changes things...
Forum: Public Discussion 12/14/06, 12:59 PM
Replies: 353
Views: 56,718
Posted By Pantone
We've been experimenting with using pallies and...

We've been experimenting with using pallies and feral druids to tank the bug holes. Druids do fine, pallies hold aggro great--but we have problems with pallies dying due to lack of tank gear.
Forum: Public Discussion 12/04/06, 12:21 PM
Replies: 398
Views: 51,313
Posted By Pantone
The logical next step would be for guilds working...

The logical next step would be for guilds working on ony but having trouble with the phase 3 transition would be to 10-man the first phase (easy!) and have 30 other people sitting there doing...
Forum: Public Discussion 12/03/06, 10:41 PM
Replies: 715
Views: 132,418
Posted By Pantone
I have to admit I'm a bit disturbed by the...

I have to admit I'm a bit disturbed by the variety and power of the datamined consumables. Now there's a flask for every class, a ton of 15-second "super potions," the disturbing engineering perk of...
Forum: Public Discussion 12/03/06, 6:53 PM
Replies: 715
Views: 132,418
Posted By Pantone
^^ that sort of thing is going to make raiding on...

^^ that sort of thing is going to make raiding on high end servers like mal'ganis pretty expensive nonetheless.
Forum: Public Discussion 12/01/06, 5:44 PM
Replies: 715
Views: 132,418
Posted By Pantone
Why? Because people already farmed Fire, Frost,...

Why? Because people already farmed Fire, Frost, and Nature resist. After we finish those, we'll likely move on to chromatic resists--gear with high multiple resistances.

Resistance fights are just...
Forum: Public Discussion 12/01/06, 3:31 AM
Replies: 63
Views: 11,864
Posted By Pantone
Its on all my boots except my tank boots--I'm...

Its on all my boots except my tank boots--I'm torn between +stam and speed there. Is speed better than 7 stam on a tank? For every ossy, there's a vael.
Forum: Public Discussion 11/30/06, 6:32 AM
Replies: 135
Views: 34,749
Posted By Pantone
Well now this is an interesting conclusion. So to...

Well now this is an interesting conclusion. So to maximize procs, you'd want to use a very fast offhand with it? Or for the feral derail option, a cat druid spamming claw would proc it 7.6 times a...
Forum: Public Discussion 11/29/06, 4:48 PM
Replies: 112
Views: 11,441
Posted By Pantone
Good catches. I was also waiting for them to...

Good catches. I was also waiting for them to comment on the influence of class restrictions on race leveling rates or popularity. For example, nightelves had the slowest leveling rates, but not...
Forum: Public Discussion 10/17/06, 11:44 AM
Replies: 2,147
Views: 189,579
Posted By Pantone
Cool idea, but would lead to some mind-blowingly...

Cool idea, but would lead to some mind-blowingly boring play mechanics. "Okay, you tank the boss over there; you go silence the casters; you go spot heal the rogues.. hey you resto druid--start there...
Forum: Class Mechanics 10/17/06, 11:41 AM
Replies: 3,257
Views: 313,258
Posted By Pantone
Any player attack that knockbacks (or in this...

Any player attack that knockbacks (or in this case, knock-forwards) is probably too prone to griefing to be implemented. In this case, you could probably use it to stick people into walls/holes, make...
Forum: Public Discussion 09/28/06, 1:18 PM
Replies: 183
Views: 15,898
Posted By Pantone
Versus current tanking abilities: Warriors...

Versus current tanking abilities:

Warriors currently tank all new content
Warriors gain-
spell reflect
6% more spell mitigation
new sunder "replacement"
new "intercept"
-3 rage on offensive...
Forum: Public Discussion 09/28/06, 12:58 PM
Replies: 2,147
Views: 189,579
Posted By Pantone
Well, don't forget that Imp LoTP is balanced in a...

Well, don't forget that Imp LoTP is balanced in a world where stamina costs are halved. Combined with the +10 levels, the warrior +720 HP shout, the new HP buffs/flask, and additional stam talents,...
Forum: Public Discussion 09/27/06, 12:29 PM
Replies: 62
Views: 10,915
Posted By Pantone
A lolferal tip: 1. On the spellbinders, the best...

A lolferal tip:

1. On the spellbinders, the best way is to have decently geared druids kite (in bearform) them back to the suppression room. The two druids will be immune to poly, take barely any...
Forum: Public Discussion 09/27/06, 10:15 AM
Replies: 17
Views: 1,957
Posted By Pantone
In general, healing bonuses don't scale with...

In general, healing bonuses don't scale with gear. I can't think of any exceptions at the moment.
Forum: Public Discussion 09/24/06, 2:28 AM
Replies: 57
Views: 7,388
Posted By Pantone
Don't obsess too much on complicated groups or...

Don't obsess too much on complicated groups or strats--just insist everyone learn to move.

My guild has never had a real strat to sartura. We have between 4 and 6 tanks grab adds and the boss, put...
Forum: Public Discussion 09/21/06, 8:02 PM
Replies: 25
Views: 5,987
Posted By Pantone
The hypothetical 1254 threat for druids would be...

The hypothetical 1254 threat for druids would be 1485 if you put 2% threat on gloves and swapped the warden staff for a Warhammer and Tomr of Knowledge.
But really, it's a question of rage.

The max...
Forum: Public Discussion 09/20/06, 10:01 PM
Replies: 25
Views: 5,987
Posted By Pantone
You forgot to use the savage fury and natural...

You forgot to use the savage fury and natural weapons talents, which neatly increase damage (and threat) by an additional 1.32 (1.1 * 1.2).
Should be 1254 TPS
Forum: Public Discussion 09/19/06, 5:44 PM
Replies: 25
Views: 5,987
Posted By Pantone
Really? I find that I can easily hold aggro on...

Really? I find that I can easily hold aggro on 5-man zergs just by spamming swipe instead of maul, only using maul on the current DPS target. The rage I get back from crits on swipe + the white...
Forum: Public Discussion 09/19/06, 5:38 PM
Replies: 25
Views: 5,987
Posted By Pantone
Hmm... let's make a formula here. Without...

Hmm... let's make a formula here. Without considering crit, miss, parry, etc you can consider a bear's threat to be..

Naked threat + AP threat + swipe threat
356 + .62(AP) + 115 = TPS

A more...
Forum: Public Discussion 09/19/06, 5:23 PM
Replies: 25
Views: 5,987
Posted By Pantone
Another key real-world difference is rage...

Another key real-world difference is rage efficiency. With a tier1 talent and the idol of brutality (blue from strat), a druid can reach 80% of his maximum threat on a mere 7 rage every 2.5 seconds....
Forum: Public Discussion 09/19/06, 12:53 PM
Replies: 953
Views: 116,325
Posted By Pantone
I'd hope flying form to be a new travel...

I'd hope flying form to be a new travel form--instant cast, useable in battle, but slower than proper flying mounts.

As for bear tanks, I think they really will be situationally better than warrior...
Forum: Public Discussion 08/23/06, 12:33 PM
Replies: 164
Views: 32,384
Posted By Pantone
Barkskin no longer reduces fall damage.

Barkskin no longer reduces fall damage.
Forum: Public Discussion 08/15/06, 6:11 PM
Replies: 18
Views: 2,722
Posted By Pantone
Try having a competant druid kite the...

Try having a competant druid kite the spellbinders instead of a hunter, unless your hunters never get caught or poly'd. I solo the two spellbinders in the suppression room--and by solo, I mean I...
Forum: Public Discussion 08/15/06, 1:18 PM
Replies: 226
Views: 20,858
Posted By Pantone
Answer: 2 guys with MC caps. It seems like a 2v2...

Answer: 2 guys with MC caps. It seems like a 2v2 arena would have to do something about crowd control, perhaps limit the first use to 8 rather than 15 seconds. Otherwise, it's all about using and...
Forum: Public Discussion 08/15/06, 7:08 AM
Replies: 58
Views: 6,126
Posted By Pantone
My guild got its first kill with assist 1 side,...

My guild got its first kill with assist 1 side, aoe other side. Our second kill we moved to an AoE under the throne strat, and have done that since. For us, it works much cleaner and it barely...
Forum: Public Discussion 08/15/06, 3:57 AM
Replies: 152
Views: 15,741
Posted By Pantone
Play dead is a bad idea. You want to be able to...

Play dead is a bad idea. You want to be able to switch gear in combat.. so how does it make sense that you need to play dead to change your clothes? Likewise, you don't want to be able to eat or...
Forum: Public Discussion 08/15/06, 2:27 AM
Replies: 13
Views: 3,308
Posted By Pantone
For onyxia, it's a short fight. Speed it up by...

For onyxia, it's a short fight. Speed it up by optimizing your logistics, not your DPS.
For MC.. let the feral druid tank and go DPS! Seriously, I don't know if not using a shield would really...
Forum: Public Discussion 08/15/06, 2:18 AM
Replies: 152
Views: 15,741
Posted By Pantone
IMHO, all that needs to be done to fix hybrid...

IMHO, all that needs to be done to fix hybrid itemization is to stop making everything a set piece!

Socketing is a start to this, but if you let people pick their own itemization I think you'll get...
Forum: Public Discussion 08/13/06, 4:44 PM
Replies: 152
Views: 15,741
Posted By Pantone
Indeed. For the longest time, my guild has used...

Indeed. For the longest time, my guild has used multiple warriors / rogues to tank / stunlock the spellbinders in BWL. Between the polymorphs everywhere and the AoE, they were a general pain. But...
Forum: Public Discussion 08/12/06, 3:28 PM
Replies: 152
Views: 15,741
Posted By Pantone
Encounters don't have to be contrived to let...

Encounters don't have to be contrived to let hybrids shine. THey just have to be more dynamic with on-the fly adaptation, something many have always asked for.

A raid boss that randomly splits the...
Forum: Public Discussion 08/09/06, 12:40 AM
Replies: 58
Views: 7,713
Posted By Pantone
Speaking of odd mechanics, I swear it seems...

Speaking of odd mechanics, I swear it seems possible to jump over the shockwave from Thekal in ZG. The timing is tricky at range, but pretty easy for melee. Jump right after he does and it misses...
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