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Forum: Rogues 03/29/10, 12:39 PM
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Posted By Apps
Sorry, I didn't play it on the PTR, so I'm just...

Sorry, I didn't play it on the PTR, so I'm just now able to work with it. I'm spinning something up for the first post, but there's really not a pocket consensus on everything as of yet, so it's not...
Forum: Rogues 03/24/10, 6:37 PM
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Posted By Apps
This was changed in patch 3.2 and took HAT from...

This was changed in patch 3.2 and took HAT from decent (which it was for much of Ulduar on single target fights) to absurd for a few weeks, until patch 3.2.2 when they implemented the cooldown.
Forum: Rogues 12/09/09, 7:24 AM
Replies: 1,143
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Posted By Apps
Well, I don't know why they'd take that away from...

Well, I don't know why they'd take that away from us...

The misdirect part of tricks has always stacked. The damage bonus part does not.

e;fb
Forum: Rogues 08/14/09, 12:09 PM
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Views: 942,007
Posted By Apps
That partly depends, because once more they're...

That partly depends, because once more they're being unclear - the new change could easily mean they're finally changing it to 1 cp per second from the talent as a whole, not a cooldown on a...
Forum: Rogues 08/13/09, 10:44 AM
Replies: 5,390
Views: 1,992,757
Posted By Apps
Multiple tricks stack threat but not damage...

Multiple tricks stack threat but not damage boost. The damage is a buff on the target; the threat transfer is a self-buff. (We frequently have multiple rogues tricksing the tank on the pull)

For...
Forum: Rogues 07/14/09, 2:57 PM
Replies: 1,402
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Posted By Apps
Even with this, it'd still be great with 3 or...

Even with this, it'd still be great with 3 or more rogues; I can't see how this can go live without (at a minimum) the 1 seconds cooldown going in.

Even just the rupture thing would probably be...
Forum: Rogues 06/23/09, 4:37 PM
Replies: 5,390
Views: 1,992,757
Posted By Apps
If so, the value of hit just took another blow. ...

If so, the value of hit just took another blow. I could see that either way with how that's written, though.

If it works with FOK spam, which seems to be assured from the phrasing, that's a pretty...
Forum: Rogues 05/24/09, 1:08 AM
Replies: 1,647
Views: 5,170,291
Posted By Apps
I'm really not sure what the last question is...

I'm really not sure what the last question is supposed to mean, but close quarters combat grants 5% critical chance to daggers and fists. Mixed specs generally aren't going to be viable anymore;...
Forum: Rogues 04/28/09, 11:59 AM
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Posted By Apps
The other advantage of nvHAT is that it is not...

The other advantage of nvHAT is that it is not dependent on having specific weapon types; you can just use your best available weapons.

One thing that's neglected about the losing people in...
Forum: Rogues 04/14/09, 1:37 PM
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Posted By Apps
Honestly, if you're going nvHAT 23/5/43 it...

Honestly, if you're going nvHAT 23/5/43 it doesn't matter what the weapon type in your mh is, just that it's slow. You can use a fist, mace, or sword equally.
Forum: Rogues 04/02/09, 9:59 AM
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Posted By Apps
I suppose you COULD just point out that: 1. ...

I suppose you COULD just point out that:

1. White crits don't proc hat now
2. If white crits procced and yellow didn't, that would be a buff, not a nerf.
Forum: Rogues 03/25/09, 2:58 PM
Replies: 1,402
Views: 903,516
Posted By Apps
Well, right - however, additionally you work with...

Well, right - however, additionally you work with 5 minute fights, where these records are mostly posted on 2 minute fights, and vHAT scales better in my testing with high hat proc rates. (The last...
Forum: Rogues 03/25/09, 2:22 PM
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Posted By Apps
I've actually been trying it on and off ever...

I've actually been trying it on and off ever since then, mostly because it's far more interesting to play and I continue to feel that there's room for improvement - I suspect it depends on HaT rates...
Forum: Rogues 03/22/09, 11:41 AM
Replies: 1,402
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Posted By Apps
The easiest simultaneous ability to test with may...

The easiest simultaneous ability to test with may be fan of knives. Everything I've seen shows it gives a combo point per crit - which is less useful than it sounds, since combo points on aoe packs...
Forum: Rogues 03/18/09, 9:33 AM
Replies: 1,402
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Posted By Apps
Just a note for your spreadsheet - in your...

Just a note for your spreadsheet - in your 23/5/43 build, you're taking full lethality; taking improved evis instead for 3 of those points is a significant increase.

Edit: Yes, I did just realize...
Forum: Rogues 03/12/09, 2:50 PM
Replies: 1,402
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Posted By Apps
That's me who's been using NHAT on live. I have...

That's me who's been using NHAT on live. I have a somewhat suboptimal group usually, however - 1 hunter, 2 moonkin, and an arcane mage is pretty typical. The main thing I see here is that you...
Forum: Rogues 03/12/09, 9:57 AM
Replies: 1,402
Views: 903,516
Posted By Apps
Can I ask your reasoning for that? I would have...

Can I ask your reasoning for that? I would have thought the opposite, since envenom hat will be doing the majority of its damage through armor ignoring sources.
Forum: Rogues 03/10/09, 5:57 PM
Replies: 1,402
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Posted By Apps
Uh, post glyph I can assure you on a patchwerk...

Uh, post glyph I can assure you on a patchwerk style fight (which is to say no interruptions) you'll have no trouble maintaining the buff. Currently with the build and style I posted earlier in the...
Forum: Rogues 02/23/09, 7:16 PM
Replies: 1,402
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Posted By Apps
Also, just as a note in my own defense, the build...

Also, just as a note in my own defense, the build in the op was more or less a blind guess at the build, before it was in common use even in bugged form. Attacking it at this stage is more than a...
Forum: Rogues 02/21/09, 8:46 AM
Replies: 1,402
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Posted By Apps
Shiv is, assuming webbed death oh, 1 energy...

Shiv is, assuming webbed death oh, 1 energy cheaper than hemo. Using wound poison, you're only gaining 50% of the poison's damage in exchange for the loss of the debuff (which alone is more raid dps...
Forum: Rogues 02/13/09, 11:52 PM
Replies: 1,402
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Posted By Apps
That would be why I posted my data and general...

That would be why I posted my data and general methods in hopes of getting more data on it, yes. I would appreciate others interested in running that style, potentially improving upon my own play...
Forum: Rogues 02/13/09, 11:11 AM
Replies: 1,402
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Posted By Apps
Alright, after giving it a try last night with an...

Alright, after giving it a try last night with an okay group, and without playing it particularly well in my opinion, I believe a poisons/envenoming build (23/5/43) is at least viable.

The idea of...
Forum: Rogues 01/16/09, 3:05 PM
Replies: 1,402
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Posted By Apps
Poison crits don't proc it. This is easily...

Poison crits don't proc it. This is easily tested.
Forum: Rogues 01/13/09, 8:20 AM
Replies: 1,402
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Posted By Apps
Switching raid party comp in combat's been fixed...

Switching raid party comp in combat's been fixed to not be allowed, so you're stuck with your party.

Also, if you're not keeping snd up you're doing it wrong - rupture is more debatable, but snd is...
Forum: Rogues 12/11/08, 12:16 PM
Replies: 1,402
Views: 903,516
Posted By Apps
It's actually more interesting solo (where you...

It's actually more interesting solo (where you have to balance energy, builders, and finishers outside of Loatheb)

That being said, I enjoyed Mut more anyway, and would naturally go back if the dps...
Forum: Rogues 12/05/08, 11:01 AM
Replies: 1,402
Views: 903,516
Posted By Apps
The first post contains a parse and discussion...

The first post contains a parse and discussion assuming only one HAT rogue. It still seems to be competitive; I gained from it, though in a very small sample size, but also with great room for...
Forum: Rogues 12/05/08, 8:03 AM
Replies: 1,402
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Posted By Apps
So, out of curiosity, how DID you get the 84...

So, out of curiosity, how DID you get the 84 talent points to have mutilate and honour among thieves?
Forum: Rogues 12/05/08, 6:42 AM
Replies: 1,402
Views: 903,516
Posted By Apps
Right, but that doesn't mean you can't study...

Right, but that doesn't mean you can't study parses and builds without having two HAT rogues in the group.

Still, if people could at least have a parse, their group makeup, and their build of the...
Forum: Rogues 12/05/08, 3:44 AM
Replies: 1,402
Views: 903,516
Posted By Apps
Deep Subtlety: Thread and Spec Necromancy

Edit: I'll rework this post over the weekend to address the new stuff; meanwhile, just skip to the last few pages. Everything before that's for old, >1cp/sec HAT.
Forum: Rogues 07/24/08, 10:49 AM
Replies: 4,255
Views: 1,493,100
Posted By Apps
This is so incredibly wrong that I don't really...

This is so incredibly wrong that I don't really know where to start.

Spec cookie cutter. Wield the dagger OH and the Sword MH. Go reread the TTT article and try to understand WHY it's a bad idea -...
Forum: Rogues 07/24/08, 10:42 AM
Replies: 4,255
Views: 1,493,100
Posted By Apps
Uh, the 2.0 speed offhand wielded dagger isn't...

Uh, the 2.0 speed offhand wielded dagger isn't really worth putting points into dagger spec for. (In fact, it may be well worth switching back to your normal offhand during phase 5 so long as...
Forum: Class Mechanics 04/02/08, 3:50 PM
Replies: 3,126
Views: 1,647,679
Posted By Apps
Slight correction here - the proc is 230 AP,...

Slight correction here - the proc is 230 AP, making it 213 EP.
Forum: Class Mechanics 03/26/08, 12:13 PM
Replies: 3,126
Views: 1,647,679
Posted By Apps
Remember that that cap you've quoted is including...

Remember that that cap you've quoted is including the talents already; you're double-quoting them. You're 7 expertise rating over cap; use a spreadsheet to determine what the best set of gear is to...
Forum: Public Discussion 03/13/08, 4:27 PM
Replies: 4,393
Views: 1,575,355
Posted By Apps
My point isn't that they'd take T5 specifically;...

My point isn't that they'd take T5 specifically; my point was that, in the event they choose a crappy bonus (and given 2 set bonuses across 9 classes and how many total specs, they will more than...
Forum: Public Discussion 03/13/08, 2:40 PM
Replies: 4,393
Views: 1,575,355
Posted By Apps
Unfortunately, that could just make classes with...

Unfortunately, that could just make classes with stupid set bonuses have them more. I know rogues wouldn't exactly be thrilled if instead of the quite good t4 and t6 2pieces, those sets had scaled...
Forum: Authorization 03/07/08, 11:13 PM
Replies: 1
Views: 1,122
Posted By Apps
SC Authorization

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Forum: Player vs. Player 02/27/08, 10:10 AM
Replies: 2,859
Views: 1,175,504
Posted By Apps
Right, but as 41/0/x (which is what I advocated...

Right, but as 41/0/x (which is what I advocated for leveling) you're going to have full normal move speed in stealth (+15% for fleetfooted, +15% for camo), and I tend to feel it's a stronger build...
Forum: Player vs. Player 02/22/08, 2:34 PM
Replies: 2,859
Views: 1,175,504
Posted By Apps
Mutilate in a heartbeat; I DID level from 60 to...

Mutilate in a heartbeat; I DID level from 60 to 70 as a mutilate build. You couldn't start getting Dual Wield spec until 66 anyway, so no reason not to go the slightly more world pvpesque 41/0/x. ...
Forum: Rogues 02/19/08, 2:10 PM
Replies: 1,453
Views: 467,499
Posted By Apps
I'm in a mixture of T4, badge gear, and PVP gear....

I'm in a mixture of T4, badge gear, and PVP gear. And, in any case, even if I were at the cap (which really isn't that high, of course) shouldn't the value be zero and not actually a negative...
Forum: Rogues 02/19/08, 12:55 PM
Replies: 1,453
Views: 467,499
Posted By Apps
Expertise seems to be broken in the AEP...

Expertise seems to be broken in the AEP calculator (unless it's actually worth negative .37 agility raid buffed for me, which seems.. unlikely), unless I've screwed something up elsewhere myself
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