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Forum: Paladins 08/06/08, 5:11 PM
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Posted By Torq
Well, I put some simple numbers into a...

Well, I put some simple numbers into a spreadsheet and came up with some results.

I went through all the plate spellpower items on wowhead, and threw together something you might be wearing at 76-77...
Forum: Paladins 08/06/08, 4:29 PM
Replies: 5,793
Views: 799,710
Posted By Torq
Because what you give up as a healer to be a...

Because what you give up as a healer to be a semi-effective "mana-battery" is not worth it. The Ret pally is the one who is supposed to be providing that utility, and can do so with far greater ease...
Forum: Paladins 08/06/08, 4:05 PM
Replies: 5,793
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Posted By Torq
But if you're going to waste the GCD to judge and...

But if you're going to waste the GCD to judge and hope for some mana return (unless it's been confirmed that you always gain some of that mana back), why not just have autoattack running? You'll...
Forum: Paladins 08/06/08, 3:44 PM
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Posted By Torq
That's why Sheathbot is an ineffective build. ...

That's why Sheathbot is an ineffective build. I'm not sure why you'd spec into JotW as Holy anyway. If you want mana gain, just autoattack whatever has JoW up, and make the Ret pally be the one to...
Forum: Paladins 08/06/08, 3:31 PM
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Posted By Torq
Yes and no. a 10% haste buff for 30 seconds...

Yes and no. a 10% haste buff for 30 seconds gives you 33 seconds of effective casting time. So you spend a GCD to gain a GCD every 30 seconds.



There are other specs (48/0/23...
Forum: Paladins 08/06/08, 2:06 PM
Replies: 5,793
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Posted By Torq
Of course I'm comparing it to straight...

Of course I'm comparing it to straight throughput. I was ignoring the fact that you're giving things up to get it, because that's how it should be. However, the comparison also is that it gives you...
Forum: Paladins 08/06/08, 11:01 AM
Replies: 5,793
Views: 799,710
Posted By Torq
What I find highly unusual about the whole Sheath...

What I find highly unusual about the whole Sheath thing is that it's exactly what they said they didn't like about the way warlocks scaled. It's looking more and more like the DS of the pally trees,...
Forum: Paladins 08/05/08, 5:10 PM
Replies: 5,793
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Posted By Torq
I just ran some numbers on three builds, with all...

I just ran some numbers on three builds, with all the highest-level tanking gear I could find on wowhead. Essentially, all the Tempered Saronite stuff, + whatever offset pieces I could find.

I...
Forum: Paladins 08/05/08, 2:03 PM
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Posted By Torq
I think the major issue with Sheath is that it...

I think the major issue with Sheath is that it has a scaling factor on par with, say, Demonic Sacrifice. There's a reason every lock goes 0/21/40; the 41-point talent in Destro sucks. Even for pvp...
Forum: Paladins 08/04/08, 5:40 PM
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Posted By Torq
Well, I think them putting more strength on...

Well, I think them putting more strength on tanking items only makes the imbalance even worse. Considering SoL allows a pally to essentially double-dip (for relatively low cost) into the scaling...
Forum: Paladins 08/04/08, 4:44 PM
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Posted By Torq
So what it really boils down to is what the...

So what it really boils down to is what the coefficients are for the AP and SP on tanking abilities, and then how they compare to the individual scaling of SP from both trees.

I'd imagine if they...
Forum: Paladins 08/04/08, 4:08 PM
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Posted By Torq
To be honest, a better comparison would be 10str...

To be honest, a better comparison would be 10str vs 15sta, given that a point of sta is 2/3 the cost of a point of str.

15sta -> 15 * 1.06 * 1.1 * 1.1 = 19.24*.3 = 5.77sp

The ap->sp conversion...
Forum: The Dung Heap 07/31/08, 2:48 PM
Replies: 30,103
Views: 1,885,016
Posted By Torq
Sounds like good advice to me! Thanks! I'm...

Sounds like good advice to me! Thanks!

I'm going to sit down and read through the rest of this thread, I may have more questions when I'm done.
Forum: Paladins 07/31/08, 2:07 PM
Replies: 1,700
Views: 693,970
Posted By Torq
Haha prepare to laugh. Or maybe cry. Armory...

Haha prepare to laugh. Or maybe cry. Armory Link. (http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Burning%20Legion&n=Fattymove)

[E] I did discover an interesting trick with those two trinkets. ...
Forum: Paladins 07/31/08, 1:31 PM
Replies: 1,700
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Posted By Torq
Well, I'm sure my guild would have no problems...

Well, I'm sure my guild would have no problems gearing out another Holy Pally, but I levelled this one with my girlfriend's druid, and would like to try to not leave her in the dust, at least when it...
Forum: Paladins 07/31/08, 12:55 PM
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Posted By Torq
I had to deal with situations like this in my...

I had to deal with situations like this in my previous guild, all the time. Exact same situation started it (Druid who was GM) would always hog the single shadowpriest along with a FoL-spamming...
Forum: Warlocks 07/25/08, 4:59 PM
Replies: 4,011
Views: 1,691,967
Posted By Torq
Wouldn't it have been a little more "fair" to...

Wouldn't it have been a little more "fair" to weigh 100 haste against 120 spell damage? That way you weighing equal item stat weights and not equal values.




Ah, that's an interesting spin on it. ...
Forum: Warlocks 07/25/08, 2:56 PM
Replies: 4,011
Views: 1,691,967
Posted By Torq
Well, at least you're agreeing with me now. ...

Well, at least you're agreeing with me now. Before, you were insisting that haste could give you a better dps benefit than the spreadsheet value (earlier in the thread). This is where I was...
Forum: Paladins 07/25/08, 11:11 AM
Replies: 5,793
Views: 799,710
Posted By Torq
To be entirely honest, you're getting 30% of your...

To be entirely honest, you're getting 30% of your STA as SP. I wouldn't be complaining too much about that, STA is one of the cheapest, if not the cheapest, item stat in the game. You're...
Forum: Warlocks 07/25/08, 10:18 AM
Replies: 4,011
Views: 1,691,967
Posted By Torq
Wrong. If you re-read, you'll see why. I...

Wrong. If you re-read, you'll see why. I pointed it out, because neither lock is getting the full benefit of their haste. If the entire fight were a 6 min fight involving movement every 2.4...
Forum: Warlocks 07/24/08, 5:55 PM
Replies: 4,011
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Posted By Torq
Well, I definitely wasn't arguing that crit was a...

Well, I definitely wasn't arguing that crit was a better choice. Crit is a much heavier item stat, by far, to be worth gearing for it. You take what you get, but you don't go out of your way to get...
Forum: Warlocks 07/24/08, 4:48 PM
Replies: 4,011
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Posted By Torq
The conclusion of said discussion was that the...

The conclusion of said discussion was that the value of haste as determined in the spreadsheet is the upper bound on it's real benefit. It is impossible for haste to give you more benefit than it's...
Forum: Warlocks 07/24/08, 1:39 PM
Replies: 4,011
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Posted By Torq
Sure, during every cast there's an equal chance...

Sure, during every cast there's an equal chance that the aoe will hit a x seconds into your cast... But the odds of it being during the last .2 seconds (the amount shaved off by haste, for instance)...
Forum: Public Discussion 07/24/08, 1:10 PM
Replies: 362
Views: 82,503
Posted By Torq
I'd still have to go back and get all the MC...

I'd still have to go back and get all the MC patterns that I never got :(

Finding a group for MC sucks on my server. Though, with the new achievements for TF/Sulf, it might become a little more...
Forum: Warlocks 07/24/08, 12:36 PM
Replies: 4,011
Views: 1,691,967
Posted By Torq
Just to add a bit of a comment here, on the haste...

Just to add a bit of a comment here, on the haste issue.

Perhaps a useful metric would be "average burn time" on a per-fight basis. Take a fight like Council, for instance. There's near-constant...
Forum: Public Discussion 07/24/08, 11:00 AM
Replies: 362
Views: 82,503
Posted By Torq
One issue I have with this is... Engineering. ...

One issue I have with this is... Engineering. It's currently impossible to learn every recipe available to you. The class-specific goggles would be a sticking point, as would some of the...
Forum: Warlocks 07/22/08, 3:15 PM
Replies: 4,153
Views: 875,907
Posted By Torq
That would fit with mage testing of instant cast...

That would fit with mage testing of instant cast Arcane Barrage, which seems to be scaling with spell damage * .8 or so, or roughly as a 3 second cast, which the spell cooldown. If Haunt, and...
Forum: Warlocks 07/16/08, 11:53 AM
Replies: 4,011
Views: 1,691,967
Posted By Torq
If they unify the ratings like has been seen in...

If they unify the ratings like has been seen in the Alpha, Surefooted will be viable for both melee and casters.
Forum: Public Discussion 06/23/08, 11:15 AM
Replies: 435
Views: 155,421
Posted By Torq
I assumed it ignored complete resistance AND...

I assumed it ignored complete resistance AND immunity, or perhaps I considered them the same. However, it's obvious that it prioritizes removing the "immune" magic effect before any non-immune ones;...
Forum: Public Discussion 06/23/08, 10:31 AM
Replies: 435
Views: 155,421
Posted By Torq
On this topic, does anyone know if Paladin seals...

On this topic, does anyone know if Paladin seals while talented are still vulnerable to Mass Dispel? If so, what's the priority like on them vs Divine Shield? Given the talented seals, they're both...
Forum: Warlocks 06/12/08, 12:30 PM
Replies: 4,153
Views: 875,907
Posted By Torq
But does the duration even matter? I remember...

But does the duration even matter? I remember reading somewhere that spell pushback on channeled spells was a static % of the channel each hit. Even at a 15 sec channel, if I'm getting hit by...
Forum: Warlocks 06/11/08, 10:52 AM
Replies: 4,011
Views: 1,691,967
Posted By Torq
Unfortunately, my application of this isn't "for...

Unfortunately, my application of this isn't "for raid purposes," and thus trivial amounts of threat may or may not be quite so trivial. It'd be interesting to see how much those trivial amounts of...
Forum: Warlocks 06/11/08, 10:28 AM
Replies: 4,153
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Posted By Torq
Unless they recently changed it, it was 133. ...

Unless they recently changed it, it was 133. Either way, it's 2x what it is now, considering Rank 6 is 66 stam. Talented with imp imp, it's 173 stam to your group, which is no small amount.

This...
Forum: Warlocks 06/10/08, 10:18 AM
Replies: 4,011
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Posted By Torq
Looks like I'll have to go tweak Omen to properly...

Looks like I'll have to go tweak Omen to properly reflect this. Did you check Lifetap, considering it's a mana gain? I'll try to verify these sometime (I tend to get very little time to myself,...
Forum: Public Discussion 06/10/08, 10:15 AM
Replies: 8,188
Views: 1,904,160
Posted By Torq
This, and your bank can already hold well over...

This, and your bank can already hold well over 128 items as well. If your bank works anything at all like your stash did in D2, it's just an extension of your inventory anyway (anyone remember being...
Forum: Warlocks 06/09/08, 5:35 PM
Replies: 4,011
Views: 1,691,967
Posted By Torq
So it looks like I should test and see what the...

So it looks like I should test and see what the exact values are.

If life drain generates threat, I'd assume it'd be the normal damage threat + .5 of the amount healed. I think mana gains are the...
Forum: Warlocks 06/09/08, 4:22 PM
Replies: 4,011
Views: 1,691,967
Posted By Torq
I'm curious about the other drain spells, as well...

I'm curious about the other drain spells, as well as health funnel and/or lifetap. My only source is Omen, which has them all "exempted" from threat sources, but I'm pretty sure that isn't correct. ...
Forum: Public Discussion 06/09/08, 3:08 PM
Replies: 2,980
Views: 1,218,350
Posted By Torq
Except it's already been seen that there are...

Except it's already been seen that there are "runewords" that are temporary item enchants.

http://urlshort.com/wotlk/site/viewspell.php?spellid=46754 is the only one currently in the spells...
Forum: Warlocks 05/29/08, 5:40 PM
Replies: 4,153
Views: 875,907
Posted By Torq
Oh man that'd be just sick. How many shadowbolts...

Oh man that'd be just sick. How many shadowbolts do you think you could throw in a short fight (4 min)... 90 or so? 900% increase on a dot that would tick for ~400... That's pretty imba. Lock...
Forum: Warlocks 05/29/08, 12:31 PM
Replies: 4,153
Views: 875,907
Posted By Torq
I played a rogue at release, and didn't roll a...

I played a rogue at release, and didn't roll a lock until ~1 year after release, so I can't say for sure, but... Since that point in time, anyway, CoD never crit.

It's always been classified as a...
Forum: Warlocks 05/29/08, 11:18 AM
Replies: 4,153
Views: 875,907
Posted By Torq
I wish people would stop perpetuating this lie. ...

I wish people would stop perpetuating this lie. It's even better that he states the truth in the next three words.

CoD does not crit. It is a DoT with a duration of 60 seconds and a frequency of...
Forum: Warlocks 05/28/08, 5:20 PM
Replies: 4,153
Views: 875,907
Posted By Torq
Someone have the aura modifier that is linked to...

Someone have the aura modifier that is linked to the spell? You might be able to determine what procs it from there.
Forum: Warlocks 05/28/08, 4:24 PM
Replies: 4,153
Views: 875,907
Posted By Torq
I wouldn't quite say it's dead yet. For one...

I wouldn't quite say it's dead yet. For one thing, a guaranteed crit every 8-10 seconds is a pretty big boost to dps. In fact, I'd see this as the sort of spec you'd want to build for less haste...
Forum: Warlocks 05/28/08, 3:57 PM
Replies: 4,153
Views: 875,907
Posted By Torq
Someone who has the datafiles mind answering...

Someone who has the datafiles mind answering something for me? Or trying to, I don't know if you can... But the Emp Imp talent, that gives you a 60% chance to increase your crit chance by 100%;...
Forum: Warlocks 05/28/08, 2:23 PM
Replies: 4,153
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Posted By Torq
I believe it's a fallback, as the talent lookup...

I believe it's a fallback, as the talent lookup on http://urlshort.com/wotlk/site/talentlist.php still lists the crit increase.
Forum: Warlocks 05/28/08, 12:02 PM
Replies: 4,153
Views: 875,907
Posted By Torq
Anyone remember the change to Improved Firebolt...

Anyone remember the change to Improved Firebolt awhile back that reduced it from a .5/1 sec reduction on the Imp's Firebolt to .25/.5? I seem to recall the reason being that the imp couldn't exceed...
Forum: Warlocks 05/27/08, 8:29 PM
Replies: 4,153
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Posted By Torq
A lot of the talents in the demo tree nullify the...

A lot of the talents in the demo tree nullify the felguard to some extent. In fact, there really aren't any felguard-specific talents other than the felguard talent itself; which again, is not...
Forum: Warlocks 05/27/08, 8:06 PM
Replies: 4,153
Views: 875,907
Posted By Torq
While I see your points... If they're not...

While I see your points... If they're not planning on making the imp a viable pet, why add all the new talents that are entirely imp-specific? Granted, they could be entirely filler talents like...
Forum: Warlocks 05/27/08, 6:28 PM
Replies: 4,153
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Posted By Torq
Current raid encounters. I would counter this...

Current raid encounters. I would counter this point that other evidence (such as the introduction of a cooldown on CoH) would point towards heavy spike damage to the raid being phased out or...
Forum: Warlocks 05/27/08, 4:06 PM
Replies: 4,153
Views: 875,907
Posted By Torq
So, in an effort to bring this thread back to...

So, in an effort to bring this thread back to bear, and to discuss potential WotLK builds, I came up with this lvl 70 build (using the talent calculator I found on the wiki):

War Pirate :: Talent...
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