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Forum: Priests 05/07/13, 8:28 PM
Replies: 39
Views: 41,588
Posted By Havoc12
Disc can heal reasonably well on the move on...

Disc can heal reasonably well on the move on durumu. Use a PWS-instant-penance rotation, with glyphed penance, while you move from spot to spot with the red. Basically use up your spirit shell before...
Forum: Priests 03/18/13, 5:54 AM
Replies: 39
Views: 41,588
Posted By Havoc12
I had a look at a random old log: Expression...

I had a look at a random old log:

Expression Editor - 11-02 23:07 - After Hours - World of Logs...
Forum: Priests 03/17/13, 7:12 PM
Replies: 39
Views: 41,588
Posted By Havoc12
This is no longer the case. I have seen 750k crit...

This is no longer the case. I have seen 750k crit heals with atonement on windlord hc in the previous tier. In 5.2 I have 190k heals, 30% of my HP is 120k or so. Also looking at your own...
Forum: Priests 03/15/13, 6:29 PM
Replies: 39
Views: 41,588
Posted By Havoc12
Healing done - 13-03 22:42 - After Hours - World...

Healing done - 13-03 22:42 - After Hours - World of Logs (http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/rt-d7pozm4jo734a5n5/sum/healingDone/?s=1126&e=1360)

I don't have too many casts because what happened...
Forum: Priests 03/02/13, 6:17 PM
Replies: 410
Views: 249,679
Posted By Havoc12
I was actually wrong about haste and the 9sec...

I was actually wrong about haste and the 9sec penance CD it did change things a lot.

penance+HF+3smites = 8s without haste or 7.6s with just the haste buff. Since three smites reduce penance CD to...
Forum: Priests 02/26/13, 7:40 AM
Replies: 410
Views: 249,679
Posted By Havoc12
I found the error I made in the formulas before I...

I found the error I made in the formulas before I was assuming that dCR/dSP = dMR/dSP but this is not true if you are maintain balanced crit/mastery. Starting from the begining.

dH/dSP = pH/pSP +...
Forum: Priests 02/25/13, 7:00 AM
Replies: 410
Views: 249,679
Posted By Havoc12
I have been told by the moderators to refrain...

I have been told by the moderators to refrain from responding to snide comments in kind, so I wont.

a 6 minute enrage timer. If you are contributing 1% of total raid DPS then 1% of 300seconds is 3...
Forum: Priests 02/24/13, 7:34 PM
Replies: 410
Views: 249,679
Posted By Havoc12
I don't think this is relevant tbh. The real...

I don't think this is relevant tbh. The real question is should disc stack crit and ignore mastery, because there is only a small difference on paper and crit helps dps.

As far as I am concerned...
Forum: Priests 02/24/13, 9:14 AM
Replies: 410
Views: 249,679
Posted By Havoc12
Read carefully before replying please: 3-4%...

Read carefully before replying please:



3-4% on average is anything but inconsequential, but whether its 4% or 4.4% is of absolute of no interest to your raid whatsoever. Even with gear 100%...
Forum: Priests 02/23/13, 10:12 PM
Replies: 410
Views: 249,679
Posted By Havoc12
Read the forum rules, to understand why i only...

Read the forum rules, to understand why i only quote small bits of each post. Your post is there for everyone to read.

Your data is flawed, because your log is for 9 people not 10 and even then it...
Forum: Priests 02/23/13, 2:50 PM
Replies: 410
Views: 249,679
Posted By Havoc12
7.6%, so 10% damage is still less than 1% raid...

7.6%, so 10% damage is still less than 1% raid dps and it would be even lower if you didn't have a warrior afk doing zero dps and if your MT was better at doing damage and are you stacking crit...
Forum: Priests 02/23/13, 6:18 AM
Replies: 410
Views: 249,679
Posted By Havoc12
Stacking mastery is going to be bad, because it...

Stacking mastery is going to be bad, because it increases overheal sensitivity. For example during the adds on horridon, any crits you get will pretty much get all the absorb used up, even if the...
Forum: Priests 02/22/13, 4:58 PM
Replies: 410
Views: 249,679
Posted By Havoc12
Disc most certainly has breakpoints and main one...

Disc most certainly has breakpoints and main one being spirit shell.

Haste is the best stat for disc and it is significantly better than both haste and mastery, so if you can afford it stack it up...
Forum: Priests 02/22/13, 8:23 AM
Replies: 410
Views: 249,679
Posted By Havoc12
I checked the calculation I did because I did all...

I checked the calculation I did because I did all the derivatives in my head rather than properly writing them on paper and it definately looks right:

1.33dSP/dMR = -(1+dCR/dMR) =...
Forum: Priests 02/20/13, 1:34 PM
Replies: 410
Views: 249,679
Posted By Havoc12
The breakpoint depends on your mastery/crit...

The breakpoint depends on your mastery/crit value, higher mastery/crit suppresses slightly the breakpoint

Mastery: 0.268 crit: 0.225506222 sp 37900, (1+k*SP)*heal_coeff = 6.788799706

remove 320...
Forum: Priests 02/20/13, 9:12 AM
Replies: 410
Views: 249,679
Posted By Havoc12
I updated the post above, check again. What you...

I updated the post above, check again. What you calculated in that post had the correct behaviour because it is exactly what you should get from your approach, which effectively ignores dG/dMR....
Forum: Priests 02/20/13, 6:24 AM
Replies: 410
Views: 249,679
Posted By Havoc12
Already solved it pretty much. I just need to...

Already solved it pretty much. I just need to calculate dG/dMR later on and my notation is

Heal_Coeff = (1+0.5M)*(1+C*(1+M))

Heal = base*Heal_Coeff.

This is important so we don't get...
Forum: Priests 02/20/13, 5:54 AM
Replies: 410
Views: 249,679
Posted By Havoc12
This way your condition is pH/pSP = pH/pCR =...

This way your condition is pH/pSP = pH/pCR = pH/pMR, which is not right, that cannot the correct optimisation condition.

The remember that hte optimsation condition we used before for mastery and...
Forum: Priests 02/20/13, 5:02 AM
Replies: 410
Views: 249,679
Posted By Havoc12
Hmmm, that can't be right, it is the completely...

Hmmm, that can't be right, it is the completely the inverse of the result I got. I don't think I could be that far wrong and this result does not make intuitive sense. Lets try going back to the...
Forum: Priests 02/19/13, 4:10 PM
Replies: 410
Views: 249,679
Posted By Havoc12
Not worth the effort IMO. I think adding g to...

Not worth the effort IMO. I think adding g to pH/pI will correct it in the right direction even if its not exact. It shouldn't be too big of an error.


Solving

1.33*g*k*(1+0.5M)*(1+F(M)*(1+M)) =...
Forum: Priests 02/19/13, 11:34 AM
Replies: 410
Views: 249,679
Posted By Havoc12
I am not incuding the crit meta, because I assume...

I am not incuding the crit meta, because I assume everyone will be using the legendary one. The 3% value is not going to change anything much.

Lets derive a more general formula for int...
Forum: Priests 02/19/13, 3:11 AM
Replies: 410
Views: 249,679
Posted By Havoc12
I don't convert to rating: pH/pMR = pH/pM*dM/dMR...

I don't convert to rating:

pH/pMR = pH/pM*dM/dMR = (0.5+C*(1.5+M))*1.6*k
pH/pCR = pH/pC*dC/dCR = (1+0.5M*(3+M))*k

Its still C and M not CR and MR. The equation is pH/pM, which is in terms of C and...
Forum: Priests 02/18/13, 3:42 PM
Replies: 410
Views: 249,679
Posted By Havoc12
Hmmm actually it seems my formula was...

Hmmm actually it seems my formula was fortuitously right for the values I used, but it turned out to not be correct either.... I will go back and redo it

ok so

H = (1+0.5*M)*(1+C*(1+M)) =...
Forum: Priests 02/18/13, 12:09 PM
Replies: 410
Views: 249,679
Posted By Havoc12
7000 crit = 11.666666666667% crit + 5% from buff...

7000 crit = 11.666666666667% crit + 5% from buff + 7% from intellect = 23.67%

4000 mastery = 10.67%+8% from buff +12.8% base = 31.45%

(1+0.5*0.3145)*(1+0.2367*(1+0.3145)) = 1.517319253087

add 100...
Forum: Priests 02/17/13, 1:01 PM
Replies: 410
Views: 249,679
Posted By Havoc12
edited to remove potentially wrong info

edited to remove potentially wrong info
Forum: Priests 02/16/13, 2:32 PM
Replies: 410
Views: 249,679
Posted By Havoc12
avg heal = ((1-C)*ncheal + C*cheal) / ( 1-C +C )...

avg heal = ((1-C)*ncheal + C*cheal) / ( 1-C +C ) = (1-C)*ncheal +C*cheal
= (1-C)*(1 + 0.5M) + C*(1 + 0.5M + (1 + 0.5M)*(1 + M))
= (1-C)*(1 + 0.5M) + C*(1 + 0.5M)*(1 + (1 + M))
= (1 + 0.5M)*(1-C +...
Forum: Priests 02/16/13, 10:54 AM
Replies: 410
Views: 249,679
Posted By Havoc12
You didn't read it carefully I am afraid. GC said...

You didn't read it carefully I am afraid. GC said that crits no longer heal for twice the amount as did hamlet himself. They just put a shield equal to 100% of the shield. Now stop and think before a...
Forum: Priests 02/15/13, 10:00 PM
Replies: 410
Views: 249,679
Posted By Havoc12
It does not matter if it procs off smite, the...

It does not matter if it procs off smite, the RPPM system seems to make stuff proc at the right frequency if you don't chain cast. Popping a couple of heals every minute should be fine.

With the...
Forum: Priests 02/14/13, 2:12 PM
Replies: 410
Views: 249,679
Posted By Havoc12
Actually the calculation accurately determines...

Actually the calculation accurately determines the HPS contribution of borrowed time based on what you did cast, which is what it was meant to do. The conclusion is irrespective of your choice of...
Forum: Priests 02/13/13, 6:03 PM
Replies: 410
Views: 249,679
Posted By Havoc12
With a penance and a pom the HPS of PWS more than...

With a penance and a pom the HPS of PWS more than doubles so its well above PoH and the gain is significant. Its only when you chain penance and PoH and the gain is minor.

Obviously if PWS is not...
Forum: Priests 02/13/13, 2:57 PM
Replies: 410
Views: 249,679
Posted By Havoc12
I think its time to put borrowed time on a more...

I think its time to put borrowed time on a more quantitative basis. A good way to model it is to simply subtract the gain of time you get from borrowed time from the PWS cast time.

So lets see how...
Forum: Priests 02/12/13, 9:22 PM
Replies: 410
Views: 249,679
Posted By Havoc12
I am not advocating using poh every 10s. My point...

I am not advocating using poh every 10s. My point is that casting additional PWS to the ones you cast for rapture during a high damage phase just before you are about to cast penance and PoM however...
Forum: Priests 02/12/13, 2:43 PM
Replies: 410
Views: 249,679
Posted By Havoc12
Nope, you are weaving PWS with penance, PoM,...

Nope, you are weaving PWS with penance, PoM, binding heal and as a last resort PoH, when you have nothing else. I already showed quite conclusively that weaving PWS raises your HPS quite...
Forum: Priests 02/11/13, 4:46 PM
Replies: 410
Views: 249,679
Posted By Havoc12
If its a burst phase with the sky falling on the...

If its a burst phase with the sky falling on the heads of your raid you need to do whatever it takes to produce maximum HPS and maximising borrowed time is a lot of extra HPS. If you have to cast a...
Forum: Priests 02/08/13, 11:11 AM
Replies: 410
Views: 249,679
Posted By Havoc12
Hmmm my calculations used the tool-tip value, so...

Hmmm my calculations used the tool-tip value, so I need to check if they are accurate.

Under situations of continuous damage, but where the raid is regularly healed up, I find PoM to be very useful...
Forum: Priests 02/08/13, 7:36 AM
Replies: 410
Views: 249,679
Posted By Havoc12
I did the calculations a little earlier for...

I did the calculations a little earlier for unglyphed 2p set bonus PoM and whenever its usable its our highest HPS spell, until we get the 4 set. Glyphed binding heal is very close to it though....
Forum: Priests 02/07/13, 8:05 PM
Replies: 410
Views: 249,679
Posted By Havoc12
If a person does not have grace and he is taking...

If a person does not have grace and he is taking regular damage. It is almost always worth using a penance at him though, because its just a 13% difference at 30k spellpower. and it just takes 2...
Forum: Priests 02/07/13, 12:14 PM
Replies: 410
Views: 249,679
Posted By Havoc12
If DPS spells scale as base1*(1+k1*spellpower)...

If DPS spells scale as base1*(1+k1*spellpower) and heals scale as base2*(1+k2*spellpower) then you can expect that the equality point will be when base1-base2 = spellpower*(base2*k2 - base1*k1) =>...
Forum: Priests 02/06/13, 2:26 PM
Replies: 410
Views: 249,679
Posted By Havoc12
Thank you for the correction I checked and they...

Thank you for the correction I checked and they have indeed changed the behaviour of glyphed renew. If you have more than 19% haste then there is no point in glyphing renew, as glyphed renew produces...
Forum: Priests 02/04/13, 6:47 PM
Replies: 410
Views: 249,679
Posted By Havoc12
I find these responses odd and obviously out of...

I find these responses odd and obviously out of subject, so I am not sure if I am within the forum rules in responding to them. Perhaps you didn't read the post I was responding to or the rest of the...
Forum: Priests 02/04/13, 2:14 PM
Replies: 410
Views: 249,679
Posted By Havoc12
You can waste your time if you like. Faster...

You can waste your time if you like. Faster smaller spells behave better in low overheal phases, because you are in competition with other healers, casting more spells faster increases your chance of...
Forum: Priests 02/03/13, 8:49 PM
Replies: 410
Views: 249,679
Posted By Havoc12
You are assuming here that the damage is...

You are assuming here that the damage is limiting. That does not mean that overheal affects haste it means that there is not enough damage to heal, but that is already taken care off in the part...
Forum: Priests 02/03/13, 10:01 AM
Replies: 410
Views: 249,679
Posted By Havoc12
We know that crit is better than haste on paper,...

We know that crit is better than haste on paper, but the whole point is that overheal is a huge issue. Also overheal affects crit but not haste. Int is affected by your overheal RATE not your overall...
Forum: Priests 02/03/13, 8:11 AM
Replies: 410
Views: 249,679
Posted By Havoc12
I am waiting to see what the fights are like. The...

I am waiting to see what the fights are like. The man 10man fights so far look like atonement spam ad nauseum then spirit shell before burst, but this does not translate well to 25man.

Beshar, ...
Forum: Priests 02/02/13, 7:50 PM
Replies: 410
Views: 249,679
Posted By Havoc12
You seem to be confused. Crit is not affected at...

You seem to be confused. Crit is not affected at all by any breaks in casting, whether they are due to mana, raid mechanics, taking a break to ponder the meaning of life, scratching your nose or...
Forum: Priests 02/01/13, 11:45 PM
Replies: 410
Views: 249,679
Posted By Havoc12
If there is really no damage to heal at all then...

If there is really no damage to heal at all then you can take a break without affecting the value of haste. This a break that is enforced by the raid mechanics, making essentially dead time. Dead...
Forum: Priests 02/01/13, 4:40 PM
Replies: 410
Views: 249,679
Posted By Havoc12
Gloryrider, lowering the healing of other healers...

Gloryrider, lowering the healing of other healers is never a concern for maximising output. If there is too little damage for the other healers to heal, one of them goes DPS. The objective is to...
Forum: Priests 01/31/13, 8:04 PM
Replies: 410
Views: 249,679
Posted By Havoc12
If you cast 1 spell with 80% overheal without...

If you cast 1 spell with 80% overheal without haste you will cast 1.1 spells with 80% overheal with 10% haste. For every part of the fight whether a high overheal or a low overheal part haste...
Forum: Priests 01/31/13, 4:51 PM
Replies: 410
Views: 249,679
Posted By Havoc12
Jegges and hamlet, you are making a very big...

Jegges and hamlet, you are making a very big assumption. Lets say you have zero % critical. Take a group of 100 heals from a pool of 1000. Then do it again. What are the changes the the average heal...
Forum: Priests 01/31/13, 11:45 AM
Replies: 410
Views: 249,679
Posted By Havoc12
I did it both on live and on PTR and everytime it...

I did it both on live and on PTR and everytime it doubles, changing my crit the order of activation and anything else makes no difference. The log values you see are probably due to procs. Just do it...
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