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Forum: Hunters 12/06/09, 8:05 AM
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Posted By Olgas
I'm just speculating here, haven't tried soloing...

I'm just speculating here, haven't tried soloing this boss myself...

Repaxan, you don't have Hawk Eye in your BM spec. But Krelle does.

Maybe if you stand at max range with Hawk Eye, it might...
Forum: Hunters 04/13/08, 1:34 PM
Replies: 4,216
Views: 1,365,671
Posted By Olgas
I agree with your point. I run with less than...

I agree with your point. I run with less than 142 myself, even though I have gear in the bank that could get me there.

My point was only to correct the earlier post, where someone had stated they...
Forum: Hunters 04/12/08, 8:48 AM
Replies: 4,216
Views: 1,365,671
Posted By Olgas
FYI, the hit cap is actually 142, not 136. The...

FYI, the hit cap is actually 142, not 136.

The miss rate against a level 73 mob or skull boss is 9%. So, you need 142 Hit Rating to never miss.
Forum: Hunters 02/10/08, 11:11 AM
Replies: 4,216
Views: 1,365,671
Posted By Olgas
Yes, there is a definite bug with Kill Command...

Yes, there is a definite bug with Kill Command that was introduced when they made the macro changes in the last patch.

I experience it all the time -- and it is miserable. I even tried switching to...
Forum: Class Mechanics 10/04/07, 9:15 AM
Replies: 714
Views: 195,750
Posted By Olgas
Repus, If you would like a better understanding...

Repus,

If you would like a better understanding of how this all works for Hunters you can read my +Hit Guide at:TKA Something - A World of Warcraft Hunter's Resource...
Forum: Class Mechanics 09/08/07, 10:47 AM
Replies: 714
Views: 195,750
Posted By Olgas
No. At Level 70, +1% Hit is equal to 15.76923...

No. At Level 70, +1% Hit is equal to 15.76923 Hit Rating. (You will usually see this shortened to 15.8)



No. If you are a Level 70 player with 350 Weapon Skill, increasing your Weapon Skill to...
Forum: Class Mechanics 09/08/07, 10:41 AM
Replies: 714
Views: 195,750
Posted By Olgas
Awesome news, Sp00n! You did it man! We now...

Awesome news, Sp00n! You did it man!

We now have the complete formula for determining miss rate! Congratulations!

Your tables are a great way of expressing how it works. But, just for the...
Forum: Class Mechanics 09/08/07, 10:36 AM
Replies: 714
Views: 195,750
Posted By Olgas
Lolaan, Yes, a .2% theory has been definitively...

Lolaan,

Yes, a .2% theory has been definitively disproved.

And, please read the whole thread before making a post like the one you did. Your post was not constructive to the analysis being done...
Forum: Hunters 09/07/07, 9:22 AM
Replies: 4,216
Views: 1,365,671
Posted By Olgas
There has been a lot of testing done on these...

There has been a lot of testing done on these forums regarding miss rate and the effect of Weapon Skill. Please see...
Forum: Class Mechanics 09/06/07, 8:06 AM
Replies: 714
Views: 195,750
Posted By Olgas
Good suggestions. Done.

Good suggestions. Done.
Forum: Class Mechanics 09/05/07, 11:20 PM
Replies: 714
Views: 195,750
Posted By Olgas
I hate to write a summary before we've completed...

I hate to write a summary before we've completed all the testing. But there are now a lot of Linkbacks to this thread from the WoW forums and other places. Unfortunately, some of the Linkbacks have...
Forum: Class Mechanics 09/05/07, 2:01 PM
Replies: 714
Views: 195,750
Posted By Olgas
Ok, here's what I'm concluding from Sp00n's test...

Ok, here's what I'm concluding from Sp00n's test so far:

With 337 Hit Rating and 354 Weapon Skill,
if the +hit per Weapon Skill was .35, he should see a miss every ~436 swings
if the +hit per Weapon...
Forum: Hunters 09/05/07, 8:30 AM
Replies: 4,216
Views: 1,365,671
Posted By Olgas
This is correct. If you have the standard Weapon...

This is correct. If you have the standard Weapon Skill for a Level 70 character (i.e., 350 Weapon Skill), then your base miss rate against a level 73 boss/mob is 9%. And, so, you need 142 hit...
Forum: Class Mechanics 08/31/07, 10:24 PM
Replies: 714
Views: 195,750
Posted By Olgas
Sp00n, Karmon: Awesome tests, guys. I...

Sp00n, Karmon:

Awesome tests, guys. I definitely agree that the .26667 theory has been disproven now. And I also think we definitely know that the per Level value can't be greater than .4024. I...
Forum: Class Mechanics 08/31/07, 6:23 PM
Replies: 714
Views: 195,750
Posted By Olgas
You've got the numbers a little wrong. First,...

You've got the numbers a little wrong. First, just to make sure there is no confusion, mob level actually has nothing to do with miss rate. The only determining factor is Weapon Skill v. Defense...
Forum: Class Mechanics 08/29/07, 11:56 PM
Replies: 714
Views: 195,750
Posted By Olgas
Yes, you can eliminate ALL physical damage misses...

Yes, you can eliminate ALL physical damage misses with sufficient hit rating. This has been well established by tons of evidence and testing. It was the case before TBC, and it is still the case...
Forum: Class Mechanics 08/29/07, 4:58 PM
Replies: 714
Views: 195,750
Posted By Olgas
Oh, OK, I get it now. I was just thinking of...

Oh, OK, I get it now.



I was just thinking of one other test you might try, Karmon....

At 351 hit rating and 353 weapon skill, you saw zero misses (2542 attacks).
At 350 hit rating and 353 weapon...
Forum: Class Mechanics 08/28/07, 10:45 PM
Replies: 714
Views: 195,750
Posted By Olgas
Hi Sp00n, I see you and Karmon have been busy...

Hi Sp00n,

I see you and Karmon have been busy while I was away!! :)

I'm trying to catch up on what I've missed over the last week. I understand Karmon's post above and the conclusion he reaches. ...
Forum: Class Mechanics 08/22/07, 12:06 AM
Replies: 714
Views: 195,750
Posted By Olgas
So, I raided tonight with exactly 141 hit rating...

So, I raided tonight with exactly 141 hit rating equipped (8.94%). It was a short raid on Gruul's, which we cleared pretty quickly. And I died early on the High King fight so my sample size was not...
Forum: Class Mechanics 08/21/07, 12:07 AM
Replies: 714
Views: 195,750
Posted By Olgas
Our Magtheridon raid ended earlier tonight...

Our Magtheridon raid ended earlier tonight because the instance servers all crashed. So, I was only able to get in 586 shots in against Level 73 mobs before our raid was called off. But I still...
Forum: Class Mechanics 08/20/07, 6:32 PM
Replies: 714
Views: 195,750
Posted By Olgas
Sp00n, I like the testing approach you are...

Sp00n, I like the testing approach you are taking, i.e., equipping enough +Hit gear to the point where the theory says we should not see misses, and then looking for misses.

It seems we still have...
Forum: Class Mechanics 08/19/07, 9:57 AM
Replies: 714
Views: 195,750
Posted By Olgas
Phew! I was scrambling on Bosskillers to see...

Phew!

I was scrambling on Bosskillers to see what debuffs could possible explain the miss, LOL.

Thanks for posting the correction. :-)
Forum: Class Mechanics 08/19/07, 9:35 AM
Replies: 714
Views: 195,750
Posted By Olgas
In posts #306 through #312, we discussed a test...

In posts #306 through #312, we discussed a test Arcazua did against a mob FOUR levels higher (20 level skill differential).

He had 178 misses in 2000 shots (8.90%). 95% confidence range = 7.65% -...
Forum: Class Mechanics 08/19/07, 8:57 AM
Replies: 714
Views: 195,750
Posted By Olgas
Well, I'm still trying not to "assume" anything...

Well, I'm still trying not to "assume" anything at this point. We're still postulating and testing. And I was even a little reluctant to write that last post because there is always the risk that...
Forum: Class Mechanics 08/18/07, 11:49 PM
Replies: 714
Views: 195,750
Posted By Olgas
Quick and dirty summary of where we are so...

Quick and dirty summary of where we are so far:

1. Your base miss rate against any mob or boss is:
5% + (Mob's Defense Skill - Your Weapon Skill)*X
And, of course, if you are dual wielding...
Forum: Class Mechanics 08/18/07, 11:00 PM
Replies: 714
Views: 195,750
Posted By Olgas
Please read the thread you are posting in before...

Please read the thread you are posting in before making a useless post like this.

The testing described in this thread has proven that both of the things you are assuming to be correct, are, in...
Forum: Class Mechanics 08/18/07, 9:35 PM
Replies: 714
Views: 195,750
Posted By Olgas
Great thinking Sp00n. I think this test will...

Great thinking Sp00n. I think this test will tell us a lot. I can't wait to hear the results.
Forum: Class Mechanics 08/18/07, 2:03 PM
Replies: 714
Views: 195,750
Posted By Olgas
Hmm.... very interesting. It does seem to...

Hmm.... very interesting. It does seem to suggest that the .6% theory can't be right.

I guess we next need to figure out a test to see if the modified Wowwiki theory holds up. But I'm having a...
Forum: Class Mechanics 08/17/07, 4:53 PM
Replies: 714
Views: 195,750
Posted By Olgas
This would be consist with the working...

This would be consist with the working theory.

With that belt, you have a Weapon Skill level of 366. So your Weapon Skill actually exceeds the Defense Skill of a Level 73 boss by 1.

So your base...
Forum: Class Mechanics 08/17/07, 12:31 AM
Replies: 714
Views: 195,750
Posted By Olgas
Unfortunately, I just haven't been able to raid...

Unfortunately, I just haven't been able to raid too much lately. Real life has gotten in the way.

However, tonight, I did manage to get another Gruul's run in. And again I was equipped with...
Forum: Class Mechanics 08/12/07, 2:18 PM
Replies: 714
Views: 195,750
Posted By Olgas
All I can say is, thank goodness for you math...

All I can say is, thank goodness for you math people. ;)
Forum: Class Mechanics 08/11/07, 11:13 AM
Replies: 714
Views: 195,750
Posted By Olgas
Hmm... Even though we haven't aggregated enough...

Hmm...

Even though we haven't aggregated enough evidence to be 100% sure yet, the collection of tests so far really do seem to be pointing to a 9.00% base miss rate (28% if dual wielding) against...
Forum: Class Mechanics 08/10/07, 10:23 AM
Replies: 714
Views: 195,750
Posted By Olgas
Unfortunately, I've only been able to go on about...

Unfortunately, I've only been able to go on about a raid and a half over the last week. So, I've had very little opportunity to do this testing.

However, last night we did do a quick Gruul's run. ...
Forum: Class Mechanics 08/06/07, 2:18 PM
Replies: 714
Views: 195,750
Posted By Olgas
Remember, that we still have two competing...

Remember, that we still have two competing theories for how the formula works when Defense Skill exceeds Weapon Skill by more than 10:

The "Sp00n/Karmon" formulation:
5 + 10*0.1 + (Def Skill -...
Forum: Hunters 08/04/07, 11:30 AM
Replies: 4,216
Views: 1,365,671
Posted By Olgas
This is a great question. Honestly, for some...

This is a great question.

Honestly, for some folks I think it's still just inertia from pre-BC days. They raided as MM before and just haven't even tried BM since BC came out. It's crazy, I know...
Forum: Class Mechanics 08/03/07, 1:39 PM
Replies: 714
Views: 195,750
Posted By Olgas
Just to clarify, we still haven't really tested...

Just to clarify, we still haven't really tested whether those first five point of Weapon Skill (i.e., from 350 to 355) reduce miss rate linearly (i.e., by a an equal .6% per Skill level).

I...
Forum: Class Mechanics 08/03/07, 1:22 PM
Replies: 714
Views: 195,750
Posted By Olgas
If you have 360 Weapon Skill equipped, then it is...

If you have 360 Weapon Skill equipped, then it is as though you are attacking a Level 71 mob when you are attacking Level 73 mobs. Which means you are facing an opponent with a base miss rate of...
Forum: Class Mechanics 08/03/07, 12:23 AM
Replies: 714
Views: 195,750
Posted By Olgas
OK, ran Gruul's tonight with 8.624% +hit (136...

OK, ran Gruul's tonight with 8.624% +hit (136 hit) and no +Weapon Skill.

As expected, this test confirmed that the base miss rate for Ranged DPS against a Level 73 is greater than 8.6%.

Here were...
Forum: Class Mechanics 08/02/07, 8:24 PM
Replies: 714
Views: 195,750
Posted By Olgas
I'm sorry, but this isn't correct. If you read...

I'm sorry, but this isn't correct. If you read back through this thread a bit. You'll see some pretty good testing has been done on this over the last couple weeks.

There is a good body of...
Forum: Class Mechanics 08/01/07, 8:22 PM
Replies: 714
Views: 195,750
Posted By Olgas
Yeah, I hear you. And I think your reasoning is...

Yeah, I hear you. And I think your reasoning is sound. The only reason I think the test at 280 might be useful is just to confirm that we do NOT see a miss at that point. If we were to see a miss,...
Forum: Class Mechanics 08/01/07, 11:28 AM
Replies: 714
Views: 195,750
Posted By Olgas
The great thing about the test Dontmindme is...

The great thing about the test Dontmindme is doing, is that it should distinguish between whether the fractional skill is rounded or dropped.

The +15 weapon skill rating he is adding should add...
Forum: Class Mechanics 08/01/07, 2:16 AM
Replies: 714
Views: 195,750
Posted By Olgas
This is a great test you're doing. Really smart...

This is a great test you're doing. Really smart approach. If you can demonstrate that the fractional Weapon Skills get dropped, then it really does open up a lot of other testing capability.

One...
Forum: Class Mechanics 07/31/07, 2:25 PM
Replies: 714
Views: 195,750
Posted By Olgas
Hey, something just occurred to me. I don't...

Hey, something just occurred to me.

I don't think we've actually seen a dual-wielding test yet, with exactly 363 hit rating. This would be a great next test -- if it demonstrates no misses at all...
Forum: Class Mechanics 07/31/07, 11:39 AM
Replies: 714
Views: 195,750
Posted By Olgas
These are both pretty small sample sets, but they...

These are both pretty small sample sets, but they are directionally informative.

According to Armory, both Kodra and Teintzo have 2 talent points in Animal Handler, which means they both have +4%...
Forum: Class Mechanics 07/31/07, 11:27 AM
Replies: 714
Views: 195,750
Posted By Olgas
I'm almost certain that your 11% figure against...

I'm almost certain that your 11% figure against equal level mobs must be adding in Dodge.

Recap, if you look at the details, will further break out the "misses" into dodges, parries, blocks, etc. ...
Forum: Class Mechanics 07/31/07, 12:43 AM
Replies: 714
Views: 195,750
Posted By Olgas
I know everyone is trying to be helpful with all...

I know everyone is trying to be helpful with all these suggestions about the pet.

The funny thing is I seem to be the person who is the least interested in the pet's miss rate -- and I'm the only...
Forum: Class Mechanics 07/31/07, 12:30 AM
Replies: 714
Views: 195,750
Posted By Olgas
Where did 15.6% come from?

Where did 15.6% come from?
Forum: Class Mechanics 07/31/07, 12:28 AM
Replies: 714
Views: 195,750
Posted By Olgas
We ran Magtheridon's tonight (our first ever...

We ran Magtheridon's tonight (our first ever attempt, it was ugly, lol).

And, so, I got the chance to test out +127 hit (almost exactly 8%) and no Weapon Skill.

The good news is my results are...
Forum: Class Mechanics 07/30/07, 6:12 PM
Replies: 714
Views: 195,750
Posted By Olgas
Actually, I think it was Sp00n who suggested a...

Actually, I think it was Sp00n who suggested a really good way to test this. He suggested that a Rogue with Mace Specialization do the test. Because Mace Specialization gives exactly +2 and then +4...
Forum: Class Mechanics 07/30/07, 6:01 PM
Replies: 714
Views: 195,750
Posted By Olgas
If you wish to take offense, that's your...

If you wish to take offense, that's your prerogative. None was intended.

The analogy was just a last attempt to illustrate the problem I see with the proposed pet test. If you don't like it,...
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